How do they get this Pageant Glitz look?

PixelPurfect

Does anyone know how to create this look? I'm especially interested in the glowing skin,lips and soft hair technique.



http://homepages.vvm.com/~kimberly/touchups/glitz.jpg

PixelPurfect

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This thread has been viewed 135 times and no response at all. That seems odd. Maybe because it can be controversial. I'm not looking for drama, just interested in learning another technique.

Let me ask this, do you think this is a painted, or pixel manipulation?

Thanks,

David

Here's my attempt.



Photo © Shannan Casper - Retouch © www.PixelPurfect.com/copyright

Anthony

Well I will respond. It is pornography.

Anthony.

PixelPurfect

Anthony,

While I appreciate your response, it doesn't help much.

David

zoomer

While certainly not my style.
This is either a program that does this....or somebody spent hours with advanced techniques on this photo to get it to this state.
Manipulation, no.....other than the way over processed look....which is probably the norm for this creepy little pageant industry.

Also just a by the way....when posting somebody elses work normally linking is better...but certainly should give credit to them.

MarkR

There are softwares out there such as Portrait Professional that will get this look if pushed too far. I think it would be faster and easier to use a macro lens and a barbie doll.

PixelPurfect

Thanks Mark,

I had been curious about Portrait Professional possibly doing this. I've not used it before.

zoomer

I use Portrait Professional, I do not believe it will go to this extent. Of course I have never pushed it as far as it would go, but I think I can say this is not a product of Portrait Professional.

MarkR

I was taking a guess based on my limited use of the product. I will be happy to admit if I am wrong.

Richard

MarkR wrote: »

. I think it would be faster and easier to use a macro lens and a barbie doll.

PixelPurfect

Zoomer,

I agree that it's not likely that Portrait Professional can create this effect. Now, if work was done before taking it to PP, maybe.

One thing of note, as I've researched this genre of retouching I have noted that the best two or three in the biz often offer same day edits, so that would imply that there are plug-ins involved somewhere in the process.

Obviously, the photography plays a very important role in achieving this look.

I have approched the photographers regarding there techniques and so far I have not received any response.

David


P.S. I took your note to heart and tried to find out who the model and photographer were without much luck, so I added a link to where I found the unidentified image.

Two of the best it seems, are Carla Haas and Kimberly Goralewicz. I won't link to their sites since this type of art can be upsetting to some. I do understand that, and I am certainly not trying to offend anyone's sensibilities.

zoomer

My best guess is that this is advanced (over) processing.
There are several experts out there that specialize in this look, the extent that they have created actions that take them most of the way there as a time saving mechanism.

There may be software out there that will turn the skin to plastic like that, but I am not familiar with any.

Icebear

PixelPurfect wrote: »

Two of the best it seems, are Carla Haas and Kimberly Goralewicz. I won't link to their sites since this type of art can be upsetting to some. I do understand that, and I am certainly not trying to offend anyone's sensibilities.

Anyone offended by a photographic or digital darkroom technique should not be on this forum or at least not link to sites that might offend their sensibilities. Their sensibilities are not your responsibility. Good grief.

Icebear

I've lost the link, and have no interest in looking for it, but there was recently an amazing video on YouTube of a young woman who on camera made herself up to look like a Barbie Doll for a costume party. It was jawdropping what she accomplished on herself. She looked much like the first image you posted. Weird? IMO, yes. Pornographic? Get a grip.

Art Scott

PixelPurfect wrote: »

Does anyone know how to create this look? I'm especially interested in the glowing skin,lips and soft hair technique.



http://homepages.vvm.com/~kimberly/touchups/glitz.jpg

PixelPurfect wrote: »

This thread has been viewed 135 times and no response at all. That seems odd. Maybe because it can be controversial. I'm not looking for drama, just interested in learning another technique.

Let me ask this, do you think this is a painted, or pixel manipulation?

Thanks,

David

Here's my attempt.



Photo © Shannan Casper - Retouch © www.PixelPurfect.com/copyright

Yes this can be done in Portrait Professional......just a matter of whee you take the sliders....Of course in the 1st image if that is an actual pagent contestant then there was the before the shot make up artist that had loads to do with the out come....the Young lady does not look like that naturally ofcourse...manipulation of models images with the make up artist and usually ends with the photoshop artist and Portrait Professional has come a long way baby since it started it.........

Anthony wrote: »

Well I will respond. It is pornography.

Anthony.

Pornography.......no.......too much make up and post processing..... yes since she is no longer looking her age........just because we do not agree with what people do to their children in the pageantry business...it is not our call........what is art to most can be Porn to another....just sayin' it is all relative and also a personal perspective......

gecko0

+1 with Portrait Professional...while I have only used it briefly, I ended up with results similar to the example photos when moving the sliders to the extreme right. I think you could also process the photo, save it, then run it through again to "enhance" the effect.

khaley14

girl in the picture
Dear Pixelpurfect, its okay that you used my picture. I only would have had a problem if you were to have said something negative about this picture or but you were onl,y asking a harmless question. Me and my dad (the photographer) have already saw that my picture was on here. and it is okay!

Peano

There's no short answer to how the post-processing is done for this sort of result (which, in my opinion, is utterly garish, but that's a separate story).

If you use Photoshop, there are various techniques for making the "doll eyes," for instance. The irises can be brightened and colored by painting on blank layers in soft light and overlay modes. Selective sharpening and dodging and burning sometimes come into play. And there are loads of ways to create new catchlights. (Various tips on editing eyes are linked here.)

The skin can be turned to textureless plaster with surface blur (avoid Gaussian blur); Imagenomic Portraiture can also help with that if you push it to the limits. Dodging and burning can enhance curvature of the face. Blush, eye shadow, etc., can be added with photo filter adjustment layers.

The lips also require numerous steps (summarized here). Color and makeup (blush) can be added using photo filters. And so on. As I said, it's a complicated process that takes a lot of practice; you have to learn a little at a time.

Here's an illustration of what can be done with all that (I would never do retouching like this except to demonstrate the result of the techniques).

Malte

To be in the business of making children out to look of a sexual age or mindset, whilst maybe not illegal, is certainly immoral.

Malte

arodney

PixelPurfect wrote: »

Does anyone know how to create this look? I'm especially interested in the glowing skin,lips and soft hair technique.

It’s called bad retouching <g>. Or the poor use of a filter to make skin look completely Photoshop’ed.

PixelPurfect

New activity.
Nice to see this thread come back to life. There are obviously differing opinions, but in my opinion, this style of retouching takes considerable talent to achieve.

David

Peano

PixelPurfect wrote: »

in my opinion, this style of retouching takes considerable talent to achieve.

I agree with you, but there's more to it than talent. Versions 2 and 3 below took the same amount of talent (= technical
skill at retouching), but they reflect considerable differences in aesthetic taste and judgment.

PixelPurfect

Peano wrote: »

I agree with you, but there's more to it than talent. Versions 2 and 3 below took the same amount of talent (= technical
skill at retouching), but they reflect considerable differences in aesthetic taste and judgment.

And I agree, but there is also a great difference in appeal, sensation and mood. Art is still in the eye of the beholder, no matter how we try and manipulate the admirer.

Peano

PixelPurfect wrote: »

Art is still in the eye of the beholder, ...

... which is to say, in the beholder's aesthetic taste and judgment.

PixelPurfect

Fair enough...

VayCayMom

Since this is the norm in some areas for this type of hobby, I don't think they are all done by hand, spending hours to complete. There is some software and or workarounds than enables one to do these with relative ease. Ever see those oil paintings advertised, painted by hand etc? There they use an assembly line where each station/ stop has one element done before it goes to the next. each person has their one expert part to apply and they do it over and over all day long to thousands of paintings.
Have you tried inquiring on some of their "forums" ? Ask some of the moms, they may have an idea or two on what it takes. Maybe you could even google it. It is a niche market. Please let us know if you find the answers you want. I am curious as well, but not interested in actually doing this . I am betting they may begin with a filter built right into PS, some of these vendors may not be what you could call regular photographers.