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Product composition - three legged stool

Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
edited May 18, 2011 in Technique
Greetings,

This is a recent acquisition of mine, a curly maple stool made by Michael Hosaluk.

Here lies my conundrum coolsmiley.gif

Frequently I am asked to provide one shot of a piece and what usually works best is a 3/4 profile.

As a woodworker I feel this profile doesn't necessarily show off the woods beauty to best advantage. And in this case the composition is complicated by the fact there are three rungs on the stool.

With any other view converging lines come into play, ie., the bottom rungs may criss cross each other. Something that may work but I try to avoid if possible.

Stoollowerangle-1.jpg

This higher angle does show the character of the wood of the seat better but I feel the image isn't quite as attractive or successful.

Stoolhigherangle-1.jpg

I feel I've allowed myself to be handicapped by the technical aspects of the shape of the piece and need to explore other angles.

FYI - the lighting on these is preliminary, I haven't added a boom/bg yet.

Thoughts ?

Cheers, Don

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    puzzledpaulpuzzledpaul Registered Users Posts: 1,621 Major grins
    edited May 7, 2011
    As a somewhat lapsed woodworker (3D / multi-layer puzzles) I can appreciate the problems of getting all relevant info / details across in a single pic.

    People selling tripods (on fleabay) have similar issues, too.

    Might it be worth considering a pic (or pics) within the main pic - where the smaller image(s) just show a part of the most highly figured part(s) - to give the viewer a 'flavour' of the whole?

    (and if they show sufficent interest, you'd then be able to show them a larger pic of said area?)

    I'd vote for the first pic too, btw.

    Just shows the problem of getting across the sheer beauty of a well-made and finished piece of woodwork via a pic when other aspects like feel / smell etc play such a large part :)

    pp
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    NealAddyNealAddy Registered Users Posts: 145 Major grins
    edited May 8, 2011
    Honestly I think that first shot is very nice. It shows off the curl in the wood and gives the viewer a good perspective of the overall form. For presentation you might consider placing something on the stool. Perhaps a woodworker's chisel or plane would tie in without being distracting.

    Nice acquisition, by the way. As a woodturner and fan of Michael's work this piece is a pleasure to view. Elegant simplicity.
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    FlyNavyFlyNavy Registered Users Posts: 1,350 Major grins
    edited May 8, 2011
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    Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 11, 2011
    Thanks Paul,

    I'm not a fan of montages but will have to consider something along those lines. Maybe two close ups and a full view in order to balance the image...

    Thanks Neal,

    I feel placing something on the work is distracting. It may make for a interesting "still life" but for a product shot the stool then becomes a store fixture.

    Thanks John,

    I agree that the second shot does show the top much better but I think the perspective makes the stool look slightly squat instead of elegant.

    Somewhere in the middle perhaps :)

    Say take the first shot and raise the camera just enough not to clip the back leg, he, he..

    Cheers, Don
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    DeVermDeVerm Registered Users Posts: 405 Major grins
    edited May 11, 2011
    Okay, a wild suggestion: wide & close?

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    Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 12, 2011
    Maybe something to consider Nick.

    Quick snaps at 7mm..

    Stoolwidelow.jpg

    Stoolwidehigh.jpg

    Cheers, Don
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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited May 12, 2011
    do you have a tilt shift or can you rent one......or view camera :~}} ....I am bucking all others here .... I prefer the 2nd image because the legs still show nice curling and I can see the top better.....
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    puzzledpaulpuzzledpaul Registered Users Posts: 1,621 Major grins
    edited May 12, 2011
    After looking at the original 2 pics again, imo there's a better impression of depth / modelling achieved by the way the object's been lit.
    Whilst it could be argued there's less colour info in pic 1 (esp. top @ 8 o'clock) - to me, that bit's just asking to have a hand run over it to check its surface texture / surface finish :)

    pp
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    DeVermDeVerm Registered Users Posts: 405 Major grins
    edited May 12, 2011
    My first thought with the wide shots was "refreshing!" :D Yes, a wide tilt-shift would be great; I can see customers pick wide & close shots over the regular.

    ciao!
    Nick.
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    Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 12, 2011
    Apparantly tilt shift is only available in a OM model for Olympus, sigh...

    Cheers, Don
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    redleashredleash Registered Users Posts: 3,840 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2011
    I'm with Art--I prefer the second shot a lot more. It really shows off the wood grain and doesn't cut off any part of the leg. Probably just a result of the lighting you used but I also think the shadows work better in #2; I think b/c they are smaller and symmetrical I find them less distracting than the foreground shadows in #1. To me, #2 looks very much what I would expect to see in a product catalog. If I were shopping for a stool like this, I get enough of a sense of the size and shape from the second shot; I'm sure the dimensions would also be provided in the text. What I really want to see is the quality of the craftsmanship and the look of the wood and #2 gives me that.

    Lauren
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    Lauren Blackwell
    www.redleashphoto.com
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited May 18, 2011
    I like the second better as well. The piece looks beautiful and I love the joinery.

    Maybe a darker background would help define the piece?
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    Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2011
    Thank you Lauren and Ian,

    Funny thing is I've never considered shooting furniture on black, hmmm...

    Cheers, Don
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited May 18, 2011
    I don't think black is the background you want but something more complimentary. Maybe a grey (or move the piece away from the background)?
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    Don KondraDon Kondra Registered Users Posts: 630 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2011
    The pieces were shot on a light gray seamless paper and were about five feet from the back....

    Lighting was quick and dirty with two Alien Bee B1600 with softboxes, I was more concerned about working on the composition and plan to reshoot adding a boom light.

    Cheers, Don
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