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Why did SM break older category URLs?

jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
edited May 20, 2011 in Bug Reporting
Category and sub-category URLs like:

http://www.jimwallingford.com/Around%20Town
and
http://friend.smugmug.com/Sports/Force%20Spring%202010

that used to be the only way to link to these (before nicenames were introduced) have worked for years and now they are broken (the %20 now has to be a dash). Lots of users are seeing this in navbar links and category or sub-category links previously posted on other sites or sent out in email. Is this intentional to break these older links? If so, why?

Is this a bug that you intend to restore backward compatibility for?

To date, Smugmug has been very careful to retain backward compatibility for older link formats and that is to be applauded, but now that backward compatibility is broken for some links.
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,011 Major grins
    edited May 10, 2011
    I had to fix hundreds of these. Also all the old sub-cat numbers don't work so had to fix those also.

    The gallery niceName you now have to use in the urls is completely useless, doesn't help anything with all the abv. and shortening you have to do.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 11, 2011
    We had to change the way we parse lots of URLs on the site, and that's why there's been a bit of wonkiness this week. We'll address this case that you bring up, John. I'm hopeful that we can just support %20 for - again. Stay tuned.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 11, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    We had to change the way we parse lots of URLs on the site, and that's why there's been a bit of wonkiness this week. We'll address this case that you bring up, John. I'm hopeful that we can just support %20 for - again. Stay tuned.

    We hope to have this reverted and fixed on the site today, will let you know when it's fixed.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 11, 2011
    This should be reverted and fixed, and no longer an issue for folks. Sorry for the hassle!
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,011 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2011
    Anyone notice that all the old gallery links that include a photo number is now
    broken. No longer does a link take you directly to a photo in a gallery.

    Looks like I have to go thru all my galleries and find every link
    and fix them by adding the photo key. It also breaks every external
    blog/forum type posting.

    ... and the major problem is going thru each gallery trying to find the photo
    to get the key.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2011
    Allen wrote: »
    Looks like I have to go thru all my galleries and find every link
    and fix them by adding the photo key. It also breaks every external
    blog/forum type posting.

    What would be better, is to give me an example link or two, so I can have Brian revert and fix so that your links just work :) Can you do that please, thanks.
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,011 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    What would be better, is to give me an example link or two, so I can have Brian revert and fix so that your links just work :) Can you do that please, thanks.
    I will find them and fix but will take some time because many to look through.

    Examples, in these galleries the links in the caption.
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/My-Bird-List-before-2006/1546643_5P7zJ

    Examples: Clicking link in caption returns to gallery page 1 not photo

    gallery photo link
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181993371_tie4i
    link in caption
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/1452390#69208702

    gallery photo link
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#181571185_rSyfv
    link in caption
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/2789228#148713434

    gallery photo link
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#254572319_Qx5WN
    link in caption (edit: noticed this one works because it's 1st in gallery)
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/4339499_g7Wvm#254644237
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2011
    Allen wrote: »
    I will find them and fix but will take some time because many to look through.

    Please don't fix or change anything. Wait for me to reply here, thanks.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 13, 2011
    Allen wrote: »

    Allen help me understand please.

    This photo
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#430458546_inSde

    if I click the link in the caption, "See all this day's Photos Here"
    it takes me here:
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/6739024_C7hAv#430418842_3u5nn

    where are you saying it should take me? ear.gif
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,011 Major grins
    edited May 14, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Allen help me understand please.

    This photo
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#430458546_inSde

    if I click the link in the caption, "See all this day's Photos Here"
    it takes me here:
    http://www.photosbyat.com/gallery/6739024_C7hAv#430418842_3u5nn

    where are you saying it should take me? ear.gif
    You picked one that works. :D
    There are a bunch that don't have the photo key, this one does and works. I have to go thru every photo and check the link in the caption. I found about 15 yesterday, have not corrected yet. Each one I find, the link goes to the 1st in gallery with the key missing. Then it's a mater of looking for that photo in the gallery to find the complete link, photo key.
    Found all these in the two galleries. All have missing photo keys in caption link.
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#181571185_rSyfv
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#181590684_jzCU9
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#181574640_fEX8v
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-A-G/3272272_hQkxo#254572319_Qx5WN
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#109276581_HKTUQ
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#187727967_iscT3
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216035168_aGuj9
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181991731_otdVD
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181993371_tie4i
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216338648_759Y2
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181512011_gZeke
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#276421737_wPC5s
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216075788_fiUaF
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181575367_ZsRBQ
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#111234255_fZ6WE
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181505445_JSB5G
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181585431_p5dNV
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#183880586_dT9Jb
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#182583201_wzTUe
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#183953544_8cCUw
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181987229_LZmy2
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181990232_DTVmn
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216343622_WZFGX
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216393570_C8dna
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181576141_VVLEZ
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216383435_N89Zo
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#183949721_CQW28
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181504579_o8prx
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#215882344_GffyV
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181603767_AXeh8
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216190558_p7piP
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#183738848_JCQ8K
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181997287_WJKhw
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216138903_JRoP9
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#187748402_P33ko
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#229386730_oHWsr
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#164984896_QT8hw
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216375548_iRjLf
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181573247_e9uQg
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181568486_Q4Mwc
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181551017_WtMXs
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181393486_dkcS8
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216171775_7Jqye
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#215674440_qg5SW
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216184834_YnXFz
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#216322926_qp8KK
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#182580348_fjoEm
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Missouri-Bird-Photos-H-Z/3760688_ty5Tu#181988409_AyK5e
    
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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    WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2011
    Allen wrote: »
    Anyone notice that all the old gallery links that include a photo number is now
    broken. No longer does a link take you directly to a photo in a gallery.

    Looks like I have to go thru all my galleries and find every link
    and fix them by adding the photo key. It also breaks every external
    blog/forum type posting.

    ... and the major problem is going thru each gallery trying to find the photo
    to get the key.
    Has this been fixed yet? I want to know that my links to direct photos in a gallery will all work... and I haven't been able to follow all this to understand why some of the gallery photo links were remaining intact, so I can't really test it myself.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2011
    Has this been fixed yet? I want to know that my links to direct photos in a gallery will all work... and I haven't been able to follow all this to understand why some of the gallery photo links were remaining intact, so I can't really test it myself.

    All known cases of breakage were fixed a while back.
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    WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    All known cases of breakage were fixed a while back.
    Allen's post #11 of May 14 was only 6 days ago, so are you saying that this type of case is also fixed, since then? (I have a lot of direct photo links on other sites, like FB, etc... so that's why I want to be sure of this particular one) Thanks!!
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2011
    Allen's post #11 of May 14 was only 6 days ago, so are you saying that this type of case is also fixed, since then? (I have a lot of direct photo links on other sites, like FB, etc... so that's why I want to be sure of this particular one) Thanks!!

    Yes.
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