Carrying two bodies, how?

M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
edited June 13, 2011 in Accessories
Now that I have a second body so I don't have to keep changing lenses, what's the general preferred method to carrying two with a lens on each? I'm shooting some sporting events coming up (triathlons) for some practice so I'll have my 24-70 and 70-200.

Pics and names of the gear in action would also be great!
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  • OverfocusedOverfocused Registered Users Posts: 1,068 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2011
    At the moment I just strap both cross-chest bandolier style. It's not the easiest since the strap underneath the second camera you put on can cause friction with the first strap, but, its still workable.

    There are plenty of dual mount belt holsters available for 2x body shooters though.

    http://www.slrlounge.com/spider-camera-holster-review

    Stuff like this but with a clip on each side.
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2011
    I have one Optech neck strap on my primary camera, the 7d, and wear that one around my neck.
    I have an Optech neck strap + sling adapter on my secondary camera, the xsi, and wear that one across my body.

    They do "cross" each other, but the sling is long enough that it's easy to manage the. Very comfortable and easy to access both bodies.
  • lightyearlightyear Registered Users Posts: 185 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2011
    Two cameras
    I use two optech straps, set for different lengths, the longer length somewhat lower than usual. Works perfectly.
    STan
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2011
    2 black rapid straps with the Couple-R adapter to attach them. Works great for me with the same lens combo.
  • catspawcatspaw Registered Users Posts: 1,292 Major grins
    edited May 29, 2011
    Zerodog wrote: »
    2 black rapid straps with the Couple-R adapter to attach them. Works great for me with the same lens combo.

    this. I avoid any pressure on my neck after subluxating a neck vertabrae after a long shoot :P OW.
    //Leah
  • www.SGphoto.uswww.SGphoto.us Registered Users Posts: 86 Big grins
    edited May 29, 2011
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  • rwh64rwh64 Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited May 30, 2011
    I also use the Black Rapid Strap but purchased the one designed for two cameras. I just shot an air show, walking around for 8 hours with a 70/200 2.8 on one side and felt no neck strain at all.
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
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    I also use this system....if this is the Op-Tech Harness...Love it...even with my 50-500 on a body it is great, it is even pretty well balanced with only a body+50-500 and nothing on the other side......
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  • cr8ingwavescr8ingwaves Registered Users Posts: 194 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
    http://optechusa.com/straps/reporter-strap.html

    for a man this wouldn't be a bad option. I can't see too many women wanting two bodies hanging over the chest though.

    http://optechusa.com/straps/double-sling.html
    I plan on getting the dual sling instead of the harness. I don't like the attachment going across the chest. I also like the quick disconnect and not using the tripod mount.
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
    http://optechusa.com/straps/double-sling.html
    I plan on getting the dual sling instead of the harness. I don't like the attachment going across the chest. I also like the quick disconnect and not using the tripod mount.

    I do not use the chest strap and I added really small carabiners to the harness for quickly disconnection from camera, so that if I wanted to use a single neck strap I could re-attach my SmugMug Pro straps when I only want 1 camera with me..........the carabiners were way less expensive than buying an Optech neck strap and I have the SmugMug Pro strap already......
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  • Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
    I like the Spyder holster the R-Strap, and my own personal habit, a simple un-extended OP-Tech strap. Basically, what I've done is I've taken an Op-Tech strap that has the detachable main part, and I attach the two smaller ends that basically are just a hand strap. But they still fit on your arm / over your shoulder, if you're medium size, and you can face the lens "backwards" so that it rests against your body instead of pointing out. This works best on your right shoulder with the camera facing "in and behind you", to the left. You can do the same with a regular, shortened shoulder strap just to see what I"m talking about.

    For a large body with a 70-200 attached though, I think maybe an R-Strap type device would be best. I would recommend the Spyder Holster system because I really do love it, but unfortunately I currently don't feel 100% comfortable encouraging other photographers to trust their camera to the system because they're not 100% safe. I've tested both the pro-grade metal unit, and the newer plastic amateur "black widow" unit, and neither of them can be trusted to always lock into place, both of the locking mechanisms have a habit of getting jammed open which is a recipe for disaster. So, as GREAT as the system makes my back feel, don't blame me if you try it and your camera hits the pavement. :-\

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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
    Thanks for all the suggestions!

    After today, I realized I don't want to have both with the factory straps. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. I found myself shooting either one or the other, and rarely if every having to switch between the two. That made it a bit more manageable, but a solution is in order for the future.
  • ImageX PhotographyImageX Photography Registered Users Posts: 528 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2011
    Black Rapid DR1

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    If I had to do the double gun thing all the time, that is what I would have. It looks smooth as hell. I figure I have 2 black rapid singles anyway. The little DoubleR adapter straps let me link them into something similar.
  • ssimmonsphotossimmonsphoto Registered Users Posts: 424 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2011
    I shot two 12 hour days this past weekend with my Black Rapid double strap and it was a rock star. I totally trust them. I once had a bride just about fall/be dropped on her face and if I didn't have my cameras on slings so I could just catch her, she would have been eating dirt. My only issue with the BR stuff is the connector to the camera base squeaking, but my hubby put some fancy non liquid lubricant on them and they have been quiet ever since. I think the new version of the connector is solid and don't have anything moving that would squeak.
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  • ImageX PhotographyImageX Photography Registered Users Posts: 528 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2011
    Zerodog wrote: »
    If I had to do the double gun thing all the time, that is what I would have. It looks smooth as hell. I figure I have 2 black rapid singles anyway. The little DoubleR adapter straps let me link them into something similar.

    I love it double as much as my RS7 and Sport straps. :D It's perfection for carrying/shooting 2 cameras. The Optech is garbage the way it mounts to the camera body and is simply a low budget way of doing it. The BR double strap is MUCH MUCH better in form, function, and quality. Love mine and I can't wait to rock the D800 on the right and the D300S on the left!
  • ImageX PhotographyImageX Photography Registered Users Posts: 528 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2011
    I think the new version of the connector is solid and don't have anything moving that would squeak.

    You really should upgrade to the new version. It's one piece and will completely alleviate any concerns one might have with the old 2 piece style coming apart.

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    I use the one above and the even newer T1. It's 2 pieces but it's for using with quick release plates. My camera can go from strap to tripod/monopod in about 5 seconds.

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  • ssimmonsphotossimmonsphoto Registered Users Posts: 424 Major grins
    edited June 1, 2011
    You really should upgrade to the new version. It's one piece and will completely alleviate any concerns one might have with the old 2 piece style coming apart.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyElppZqGxU7obEDyDtggrl4TQoQnUmnPdpSSb5v_5ximpKkueKg

    I use the one above and the even newer T1. It's 2 pieces but it's for using with quick release plates. My camera can go from strap to tripod/monopod in about 5 seconds.

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    What 'pod do you use the t1 with? I have a Benro and they wouldn't give me the depth of the t1 to figure out of it would work with my plates or not. I've seriously considered ugrading to the new version as well.
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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,133 moderator
    edited June 1, 2011
    ... The Optech is garbage the way it mounts to the camera body and is simply a low budget way of doing it. ...

    Nonsense.
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    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited June 1, 2011
    So here is my setup for attachment. It is 1/2inch tubular climbing webbing that has been bar tacked together looped through the eye of a Kirk camera plate. I used to swing around off of cliffs with this crap trusting my life to it. So I figure it will be fine to swing my camera around with. The best part of this is it can never ever come unscrewed. The close second is there is nothing to remove when I mount to the tripod. It is off on the side. I have one of these on my 80-200 tripod mount as well.
    This strap is my light weight version of the Black rapid strap. It uses a BR clip and slide but it is 1" tubular climbing webbing. It stuffs in my bag easier and it doesn't really bug me. I find I reach for this one instead of my BR strap most of the time.

    The loop hole on the side of the kirk plate makes this work awesome. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the kirk foot replacement I ordered for my 70-200 has somewhere to loop through. If not, it is going to the machine shop with me for some modifications.
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  • ImageX PhotographyImageX Photography Registered Users Posts: 528 Major grins
    edited June 1, 2011
    ziggy53 wrote: »
    Nonsense.

    It absolutely is garbage when compared to the BR design. Look how the cameras hang all awkward by two attachment points. There's straps and attachments running all over the place on that design. It's like taking an already terrible neckstrap design and multiplying it. The BR is MUCH MUCH better in form and function. It's faster and cleaner to have the camera's hanging upside down at your side by one attachment point.... where they can slide UP the strap. Optech could have done much better than the lackluster effort they put in with their frankenstien strap. Anyone who says otherwise uses the Optech strap and has never tried the BR double strap. They simply could have built a better strap instead of trying to design it AROUND their uni loop attachments. Something that is purpose built is almost always better. Even their single sling strap is half messed up(when it could have easily been better) because they just HAD to use the uni loop!
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,133 moderator
    edited June 2, 2011
    It absolutely is garbage when compared to the BR design. Look how the cameras hang all awkward by two attachment points. There's straps and attachments running all over the place on that design. It's like taking an already terrible neckstrap design and multiplying it. The BR is MUCH MUCH better in form and function. It's faster and cleaner to have the camera's hanging upside down at your side by one attachment point.... where they can slide UP the strap. Optech could have done much better than the lackluster effort they put in with their frankenstien strap. Anyone who says otherwise uses the Optech strap and has never tried the BR double strap. They simply could have built a better strap instead of trying to design it AROUND their uni loop attachments. Something that is purpose built is almost always better. Even their single sling strap is half messed up(when it could have easily been better) because they just HAD to use the uni loop!

    The Op/Tech system is very diverse and they offer no less than 3 methods for hanging 2 cameras. Of those 3 methods, 2 methods involve interchangeable parts so that you could create 2 different methods that quickly transform for different applications. Those 2 methods also both use the camera's strap lugs or strap pins to provide connection to the camera where the manufacturer intended the camera to be suspended.

    The third Op/Tech 2-camera system uses the company's "loop" system. Like you, I do not trust the loop system for professional or advanced amateur use, and I won't use that system myself or recommend it to others.

    While you are quick to dismiss the Op/Tech system, I applaud it for its sound engineering. The 2-point redundant connection provides resistance to complete system failure, unlike the Black Rapid system which, until the end of 2009, had 3 known primary points of failure (all of which you are welcome to research):
    1) The "bail" on the screw-in bottom attachment. ("FastenR") This has been addressed in the FastenR-3, which I highly recommend if you use this system.
    2) The screw-in bottom attachment, again the FastenR, can become unscrewed from the camera. This has been partially addressed in the FastenR-3, but they still need a better anti-rotation capability. I recommend frequent checks of the FastenR-3 attachment to make sure that you know if it is becoming loose.
    3) The swivel connector, Black Rapid calls it the "ConnectR", can sometimes unscrew and drop the camera. This was addressed with the ConnectR-2, but there are some reports of these separating as well. To Black Rapid's credit they did a proactive announcement of the problem and mailed a majority of owners new/replacement products.

    Understand that failure of any one of these points will cause your camera/lens/flash to fall, presenting the possibility of extreme damage to your camera system. I simply cannot recommend the Black Rapid system unless you also add some extra protection yourself to avoid the potential for catastrophic failure.

    In the case of the Op/Tech "Dual Harness", since it has 2 connection points with the camera both would have to fail simultaneously in order to drop your equipment. The Op/Tech Dual Harness system also leaves the bottom of the camera available for tripod/battery-grip/external-flash-power use. This is the system I recommend for best performance "and" safety in holding 2 cameras on your person.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2011
    And isn't this why we're lucky to have choices? Ziggy, myself (and no doubt many others) use the Optech system and find it works for them. Other people prefer BR. To each his own and all that... ne_nau.gif

    Personally, I've been fine with Optech's loop attachments - no fraying or other concerns, and I prefer using the lug mounts on the camera to the bottom screw - I really hate the way the camera feels/balances when the strap is on the bottom. And, in fact, I'm very - VERY - glad that I tried out Optech's extremely affordable sling before ponying up for (and waiting for!) a Luma (what I thought was my first choice): I've discovered that I really don't like the sling position that much as I find that if the straps are long enough for me to have full shooting mobility when it's raised to my eye, the camera then moves around too much on my hip for my liking; I've realised I greatly prefer handling when it's around my neck for shooting (hence why my secondary body goes on the sling while my primary body is still around my neck).
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2011
    To me suspending the camera right side up poses lots of problems. Especially with a bigger lens like a 24-70 or 70-200. Also it doesn't slide or pivot like the BR does. .And your camera is not ready to grab. With the BR a 70-200 mounted at the tripod foot it all balances like a dream. As Ziggy said the attachment for the BR is OK but if it fails, not so good. With the new attachment failure is unlikely, unless it unscrews. But you still can't get around the fact that you need to remove it to mount to a tripod. That is why I came up with my attachment with the webbing. It can not come unscrewed, never fail catastrophically, and I can still use my tripod QR with the strap mounted.

    To me the Optech system looks OK but not as functional for what I do.
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2011
    I do use a 24-70L - it earns it's name "the brick" !! I hate the way it feels hanging at my side and - for me - it's quicker to get it into position from around my neck. A 70-200 might change my mind, but since I don't have that lens, that's a moot point for me at the moment. And if I ever do want to sling, I have the adapter and could easily swap things up so that went on my primary camera instead of secondary! That's the real beauty of the Optech setup for me - you can change it up to suit your needs on any given occasion... without n ecessarily having to buy a new strap.

    It all comes down to personal preference and nothing more - we're lucky to have various products to meet different needs!!

    ETA: For anybody considering buying Optech, their "sidewalk sale" products are exactly as described: minor cosmetic blemishes. I saved a bundle that way and the items are fully functional without any reservations.
  • ZerodogZerodog Registered Users Posts: 1,480 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2011
    I hate anything hanging from my neck. I have an old neck injury that really bothers me with that sort of pressure. My usual setup is the D3s with a 80-200, and the 300s with a 17-55 or a 24-70. All of them are big and heavy. It is all that weight and length of the lens that tilts the camera forward when hanging from the ears. Hanging from the bottom allows everything to balance out.
  • metmet Registered Users Posts: 405 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2011
    I bought the Black Rapid double and love it. I use it for weddings and large event photography. Works perfect for my needs and you can detach it and use it as a single BR strap when you only need to carry 1 body.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited June 11, 2011
    Great thread, guys. Kind of a Siskal and Ebert thing going on here. :giggle And timely too because I need a good dual-strap.

    Ziggy, have you put something as large as a 70-200 F2.8 on one of the two cameras on the Optech strap? In looking at it, I've got to admit that the Black Rapid looks more functional for a big lens like that. However, I do enjoy my Optech single camera strap and know they make good stuff.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited June 13, 2011
    So here's a new option I stumbled across. Has anybody heard of CarrySpeed? They seem to have taken what Black Rapid has done to the next level or two. In doing so they addressed the following shortcomings of Black Rapid as I see it.

    1) Camera sliding around when you move around. The CarrySpeed has adjustable "stops" on the strap. A rear stop keeps the camera from getting behind you. The front stop keeps the camera from swinging in front of you while you bend over. The front stop must be disconnected to actually use your camera.

    2) No single point of failure on the camera mount. There's a safety strap as part of the mounting.

    3) The camera mounting has tripod threads on the bottom so you can put it on a tripod without disconnecting the plate.

    Here's a video review of the CarrySpeed comparing it to the Black Rapid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfIPKidgDXg

    Their website (which is flash-based so I can't give you any specific links on their site. ) http://carryspeed.com/

    Best of all, it's priced about 1/2 of the Black Rapid. There's an Ebay seller of them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120725399188

    Sounds too good to be true, I know. But at this price the risk was low enough that I went ahead and ordered a dual-strap to see. deal.gif
  • ssimmonsphotossimmonsphoto Registered Users Posts: 424 Major grins
    edited June 13, 2011
    kdog wrote: »
    So here's a new option I stumbled across. Has anybody heard of CarrySpeed? They seem to have taken what Black Rapid has done to the next level or two. In doing so they addressed the following shortcomings of Black Rapid as I see it.

    1) Camera sliding around when you move around. The CarrySpeed has adjustable "stops" on the strap. A rear stop keeps the camera from getting behind you. The front stop keeps the camera from swinging in front of you while you bend over. The front stop must be disconnected to actually use your camera.

    2) No single point of failure on the camera mount. There's a safety strap as part of the mounting.

    3) The camera mounting has tripod threads on the bottom so you can put it on a tripod without disconnecting the plate.

    Here's a video review of the CarrySpeed comparing it to the Black Rapid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfIPKidgDXg

    Their website (which is flash-based so I can't give you any specific links on their site. ) http://carryspeed.com/

    Best of all, it's priced about 1/2 of the Black Rapid. There's an Ebay seller of them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120725399188

    Sounds too good to be true, I know. But at this price the risk was low enough that I went ahead and ordered a dual-strap to see. deal.gif
    I'm intrigued. I'm a BR user, but now considering switching out the connectors on my cameras for these instead (buy them for $9 on eBay). Any sane person going to provide another point of view to tell me why it wouldn't work? I'm liking still having the tripod mount. (BR says they are coming out with other connectors for tripod plates, but how long will that take?)
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