No matter how low i set save for web it still looks big enough to print.

oakfieldphotography.com

No matter how low i set save for web it still looks big enough to print. Using a 5Dmk2 my pictures have got alot bigger than what i am used to with my 40D. I tried saving for web on its lowest settings in CS5 and got my photo down to 92KB but when i open the saved image in CS5 it stii is large enough to print. Please dont trash me here but can anyone help please?

Regards
Patrick:D

Richard

I'm not really sure I understand what you are trying to do. Are you trying to dissuade people from printing pics of yours online? There's really no way to prevent someone from doing a screen capture, but you could add a watermark as a deterrent. Of course, that's also going to make your pics less attractive online. Perhaps your hosting service allows you to limit the size displayed. You could always downsize in PS to something ridiculously small, but then your pics will look like crap. Maybe fill us in a bit on the problem you are trying to solve.

oakfieldphotography.com

Richard wrote: »

I'm not really sure I understand what you are trying to do. Are you trying to dissuade people from printing pics of yours online? There's really no way to prevent someone from doing a screen capture, but you could add a watermark as a deterrent. Of course, that's also going to make your pics less attractive online. Perhaps your hosting service allows you to limit the size displayed. You could always downsize in PS to something ridiculously small, but then your pics will look like crap. Maybe fill us in a bit on the problem you are trying to solve.

Hi Richard,
Ok here is what i did. I took a Raw image and processed it into the smallest jpeg that OCR would allow me to. The finished jpeg image size was 6144 by 4096. then i opened this image in CS5 and saved it to web and devices to its lowest output and came up with 6182 by 4134 at 71 dpi.
I know that i can resize it in CS5 but for the size of pictures that come from a 5Dmk2 what is the preferred size for web. Is it 800 on the longest side? I dont know

Regards
Patrick:D

Ohiohiker

Patrick,

I assume by you stating that you saved it at the lowest setting in CS5 means the lowest quality in the save as a JPEG Dialog. This only affects compression of the file as a JPEG. You need to resize the image. In CS5 go to "Image" and "Image Size"


Then in the dialog box enter the size you wish the image to be, for instance 800px on the long edge.


MAKE SURE YOU USE SAVE AS. if not you risk overwriting your original file and being stuck with only a low res image.

Hope this helps.

oakfieldphotography.com

Ohiohiker wrote: »

Patrick,

I assume by you stating that you saved it at the lowest setting in CS5 means the lowest quality in the save as a JPEG Dialog. This only affects compression of the file as a JPEG. You need to resize the image. In CS5 go to "Image" and "Image Size"


Then in the dialog box enter the size you wish the image to be, for instance 800px on the long edge.


MAKE SURE YOU USE SAVE AS. if not you risk overwriting your original file and being stuck with only a low res image.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Chris. Is it a given that everyone here or on the internet who dosent want even 6 by 4 images printed from downloads of their pictures save them to 800 pixels wide?
Regards
Patrick:D

ps i have tried to reduce them to 800 pixels on the widest side and the image is still very large? started with an image taken in portrait position of a car. 4134 by 6182. When i reduce it to 800 Pixels i look at the image size in inches and it is 7.43 by 11.111 at 71 dpi.

digismile

Patrick,

A photo that is 800 pixels on the long side is a very small photo. What you are seeing in CS5 is simply an implied ratio. It is the @ 71 DPI that is confusing the situation for you. The absolute size is what you really need to pay attention to.

A photo that is 800 on the long side is definitely too small to get any decent type of print. That's because a commercial photo printer needs about 240 - 300 pixels for every inch of print. That means that a photo with 800 pixels on the long side is really only going to produce a decent print that is 2.5 to 3 inches wide (800/300). Your CS5 is simply telling you what the image size would be at a given dpi. If you change the dpi setting to 10, it would say that image would be 80" wide! But it could never be printed this big! It would look terrible.

Note that the photo is still its original size (800 pixels wide). Changing the dpi setting does not have ANY effect on the final size of the photo. It will only affect how some programs will attempt to render/display the photo.

Keeping your final size to less than 1000 pixels on the long side will generally be small enough to keep anyone from getting a decent print of any of your photos.

Hope this helps,

oakfieldphotography.com

digismile wrote: »

Patrick,

A photo that is 800 pixels on the long side is a very small photo. What you are seeing in CS5 is simply an implied ratio. It is the @ 71 DPI that is confusing the situation for you. The absolute size is what you really need to pay attention to.

A photo that is 800 on the long side is definitely too small to get any decent type of print. That's because a commercial photo printer needs about 240 - 300 pixels for every inch of print. That means that a photo with 800 pixels on the long side is really only going to produce a decent print that is 2.5 to 3 inches wide (800/300). Your CS5 is simply telling you what the image size would be at a given dpi. If you change the dpi setting to 10, it would say that image would be 80" wide! But it could never be printed this big! It would look terrible.

Note that the photo is still its original size (800 pixels wide). Changing the dpi setting does not have ANY effect on the final size of the photo. It will only affect how some programs will attempt to render/display the photo.

Keeping your final size to less than 1000 pixels on the long side will generally be small enough to keep anyone from getting a decent print of any of your photos.

Hope this helps,

That is what i was hoping to hear. Great news. Thanks for your help and everyone else here that gave me pointers too.
Regards
Patrick

colourbox

oakfieldphotography.com wrote: »

I tried saving for web on its lowest settings in CS5 and got my photo down to 92KB but when i open the saved image in CS5 it stii is large enough to print.

There are multiple meanings for "lowest." When you said you used the lowest settings, I'm guessing you used the lowest compression. But that didn't change the pixel width and height, which was probably still the original 25 megapixels or whatever. The post above showed how to lower the pixel width and height, but you don't need the extra step of using Image Size, which would also risk changing the original file by accident.

Instead, when you are in Save for Web, use the Image Size options in there to lower the pixel width and height. Then you'll be using it as intended: To lower the image size, but only for the web copy and not the original. Then, the quality setting is independent of that and doesn't have to be dialed down so far that it makes the image look bad. You can leave it at Medium or higher since the file width and height is now down to 800 pixels or lower.