Keywords aren't keywords?

jcdilljcdill Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
edited July 23, 2011 in SmugMug Support
See this search result:

http://portfolio.jcdill.com/search/index.mg?searchType=InUser&NickName=JCDill&searchWords=Rhonda

The term Rhonda IS a keyword, put into the photo as a keyword in Lightroom. Why does Smugmug say it doesn't find a keyword for Rhonda, and yet it also finds the photos that HAVE the keyword Rhonda?

I think this is very confusing for my customers.
JC Dill - Equine Photographer, San Francisco & San Jose http://portfolio.jcdill.com
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"Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." ~ Terry Pratchett

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  • J AllenJ Allen Registered Users Posts: 359 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2011
    jcdill wrote: »
    See this search result:

    http://portfolio.jcdill.com/search/index.mg?searchType=InUser&NickName=JCDill&searchWords=Rhonda

    The term Rhonda IS a keyword, put into the photo as a keyword in Lightroom. Why does Smugmug say it doesn't find a keyword for Rhonda, and yet it also finds the photos that HAVE the keyword Rhonda?

    I think this is very confusing for my customers.


    If you remove this from your CSS:
    /* Hide Gallery results, link to search all of Smugmug */
    /* commented out for now:  .allusersearch, 
    
    #galleryResults {
    display:none;
    }
    
    



    And add this, you won't see any of that:


    #otherSearches, #keywordResults h3,
    #galleryResults, .searchResults .boxTop h3,
    #relatedKeywords, #altRange, .allusersearch,
    #keywordResults {display:none !important}
    
    
    -Joe Allen
    My Smugmug Site
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2011
    jcdill wrote: »
    See this search result:

    http://portfolio.jcdill.com/search/index.mg?searchType=InUser&NickName=JCDill&searchWords=Rhonda

    The term Rhonda IS a keyword, put into the photo as a keyword in Lightroom. Why does Smugmug say it doesn't find a keyword for Rhonda, and yet it also finds the photos that HAVE the keyword Rhonda?

    I think this is very confusing for my customers.
    Yes, that's ridiculous. We've been talking for ages about how bad the search results UI is for people, but so far, no changes. I've seen long-time site owners here get stumped by the UI because it's so weird. I wish SmugMug would finally do something about it. Thank you in advance for the fix, JAllen.
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  • jcdilljcdill Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2011
    Still trying to get search results to behave properly
    J Allen wrote: »
    If you remove this from your CSS:

    And add this, you won't see any of that:

    I don't want to keep users from seeing "any of that" - I only, ONLY, want to suppress PART of "that".

    When I added your code I lost the links to search the parent sub-category, parent category, and my entire site on Smugmug - all useful links that I need to KEEP. (I sent my clients email that describes how they can expand their search to the parent sub-category, it's essential that this link is present in the search results.)

    I needs search results to display the following essential and helpful items:

    1) Photos that match the keyword.
    2) Links to expand the search to parent groups (parent sub-category, parent category, the entire site).

    But suppress the UNWANTED search results including:

    3) The (bug) BOGUS "no matching keywords" result
    4) The link to search ALL of SMUGMUG (taking MY customer away from MY site).


    Thanks!


    Now, a word for SmugMug management: I find it incredibly frustrating that I have to repeatedly beg other users of this forum for help in getting search results to behave properly because Smugmug doesn't just FIX their code to have search behave properly. This is not good customer service.
    JC Dill - Equine Photographer, San Francisco & San Jose http://portfolio.jcdill.com
    "Chance favors the prepared mind." ~ Ansel Adams
    "Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." ~ Terry Pratchett
  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2011
    jcdill wrote: »
    See this search result:

    http://portfolio.jcdill.com/search/index.mg?searchType=InUser&NickName=JCDill&searchWords=Rhonda

    The term Rhonda IS a keyword, put into the photo as a keyword in Lightroom. Why does Smugmug say it doesn't find a keyword for Rhonda, and yet it also finds the photos that HAVE the keyword Rhonda?
    Keyword results only return exact matches. You don't have a keyword names "rhonda" and therefore no direct keyword results are returned. The keyword is "rhonda weiss".
    That said, searching for the full name doesn't work currently return any keyword restuls either due to a bug with regarding multi word keywords. That's been reported to our engineers. I'm sorry for any inconvenience. I've added a link to this thread to the bug report.

    Though that bug doesn't affect the direct photo results from showing and searching for the full name brings up results in the "photos matching" section.

    Sebastian
    Sebastian
    SmugMug Support Hero
  • jcdilljcdill Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2011
    Keyword results only return exact matches.

    Why isn't this configurable? Let the photographer, or the visitor, or both select if they want exact matches only, or not.

    Why can't the photographer *easily* configure their page to show or not show the various options and links you create when someone does a search? This entire feature was badly spec'd and implemented.
    JC Dill - Equine Photographer, San Francisco & San Jose http://portfolio.jcdill.com
    "Chance favors the prepared mind." ~ Ansel Adams
    "Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." ~ Terry Pratchett
  • jcdilljcdill Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2011
    That's been reported to our engineers. I'm sorry for any inconvenience. I've added a link to this thread to the bug report.

    Can you, or one of your engineers, PLEASE tell me what I need to do in CSS to get search results to show the pieces I want, while suppressing/hiding the pieces I don't want? I've been trying to get this working correctly for MORE THAN 2 WEEKS.
    JC Dill - Equine Photographer, San Francisco & San Jose http://portfolio.jcdill.com
    "Chance favors the prepared mind." ~ Ansel Adams
    "Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." ~ Terry Pratchett
  • jcdilljcdill Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited July 23, 2011
    Bump - still waiting for an answer.
    jcdill wrote: »
    Can you, or one of your engineers, PLEASE tell me what I need to do in CSS to get search results to show the pieces I want, while suppressing/hiding the pieces I don't want? I've been trying to get this working correctly for MORE THAN 2 WEEKS.

    Bump.
    JC Dill - Equine Photographer, San Francisco & San Jose http://portfolio.jcdill.com
    "Chance favors the prepared mind." ~ Ansel Adams
    "Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." ~ Terry Pratchett
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 23, 2011
    jcdill wrote: »
    Bump.

    JC Please write us as the help desk and we'll assist from there, thanks.
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