C&C Mens Football

dbvetodbveto Registered Users Posts: 660 Major grins
edited August 10, 2011 in Sports
Here are a 4 shots from the last Football game I shot. Feel free to comment or Critique these, I am posting to improve.

#1
Removed

#2 Here is the Racine Radiers QB #1 being chased by #58 DL
Cropped to eliminate some of the distracting stands.
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#3

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#4

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  • pipsterpipster Registered Users Posts: 39 Big grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    If these photos are straight out of the camera with the settings you are using the exposure is wrong. Center weight metering and shutter priority are not working for you in these photos.

    #1 Out of focus ball carrier, if it was mine it would be deleted.

    #2 Background is blown out bad and is really distracting.

    #3 This photo is another one that has real problems. The defensive player has to much noise and the lead blocker is overexposed and looks bad.

    #4 Best of the bunch but still hot.
  • dbvetodbveto Registered Users Posts: 660 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    pipster wrote: »
    If these photos are straight out of the camera with the settings you are using the exposure is wrong. Center weight metering and shutter priority are not working for you in these photos.

    #1 Out of focus ball carrier, if it was mine it would be deleted.

    #2 Background is blown out bad and is really distracting.

    #3 This photo is another one that has real problems. The defensive player has to much noise and the lead blocker is overexposed and looks bad.

    #4 Best of the bunch but still hot.

    Thanks for your comments
    #1Out of focus ball carrier-Not sure where you are talking about, I see a little glare from his face shield. Ok I see what you are saying.

    #2 I was having problems with those stands the sun was just reflecting off of them.

    #3 I got ya on this one, should have taken a better look at it before posting.

    To be clear #4 you say still hot, you mean over exposed?
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  • pipsterpipster Registered Users Posts: 39 Big grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    Yes #4 is to hot or over exposed. Look at the whites on the ball carriers shoulders. according to the EXIF data all of the photos have a +1.00 exposure bias. Not sure why but it is not working for you along with the center weight metering and shutter priority.

    Are these straight out of the camera or has post processing been applied.
  • dbvetodbveto Registered Users Posts: 660 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    pipster wrote: »
    Yes #4 is to hot or over exposed. Look at the whites on the ball carriers shoulders. according to the EXIF data all of the photos have a +1.00 exposure bias. Not sure why but it is not working for you along with the center weight metering and shutter priority.

    Are these straight out of the camera or has post processing been applied.
    Some post processing
    I will take a look at them before anything was done.
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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 642 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    What camera body & lens were you using? If they were cropped heavily & then processed, then this would have enhanced the issues noted above.
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  • MileHighAkoMileHighAko Registered Users Posts: 413 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    I don't know anything about your particular camera, but I notice these shots are at ISO 1600, and seems to me you can really notice the noise in them, in addition to being overly cropped. Would recommend you shoot tighter to begin with, so you can avoid cropping so heavily.

    Is this semi-pro football? I love semi-pro football because it's basically guys like us out there reliving their glory days, and I could watch it all night long! Thanks for sharing, and please keep posting.
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  • dbvetodbveto Registered Users Posts: 660 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2011
    MileHighAko wrote: »
    I don't know anything about your particular camera, but I notice these shots are at ISO 1600, and seems to me you can really notice the noise in them, in addition to being overly cropped. Would recommend you shoot tighter to begin with, so you can avoid cropping so heavily.

    Is this semi-pro football? I love semi-pro football because it's basically guys like us out there reliving their glory days, and I could watch it all night long! Thanks for sharing, and please keep posting.
    yes it is semi pro and I have to agree with you I prefer watching these guys than a lot of the Pro's these guys play for the love of the game. I did not crop these, I was trying a setting a friend recommended of using auto ISO and I don't think I will be using that again. Plus I am going to do some checking because they look different between two monitors.
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  • pipsterpipster Registered Users Posts: 39 Big grins
    edited August 10, 2011
    Plus I am going to do some checking because they look different between two monitors.

    If they look different on two different monitors I would suspect one or both of the monitors are not calibrated and the problem is still with the photo.

    The Histogram is a great tool. If your camera has that capability then look at the photos and I believe you will see that the photos are exposed either all the way to the right overall or there will be a distinct spike all the way to the right. You should also be able to see the histogram in your processing software. If the histogram is all the way to the right then there will be overexposed parts of the photo.

    Looking at the EXIF data it looks like you used shutter priority and set the shutter speed to 1/750. The exposure bias was set to +1. The third important thing to consider is the center weighted exposure metering.

    In the photos shown I would suggest that the exposure bias is the big problem. Therefore the question I have is what were you trying to accomplish with the exposure bias set at +1?
  • dbvetodbveto Registered Users Posts: 660 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2011
    pipster wrote: »
    If they look different on two different monitors I would suspect one or both of the monitors are not calibrated and the problem is still with the photo.

    The Histogram is a great tool. If your camera has that capability then look at the photos and I believe you will see that the photos are exposed either all the way to the right overall or there will be a distinct spike all the way to the right. You should also be able to see the histogram in your processing software. If the histogram is all the way to the right then there will be overexposed parts of the photo.

    Looking at the EXIF data it looks like you used shutter priority and set the shutter speed to 1/750. The exposure bias was set to +1. The third important thing to consider is the center weighted exposure metering.

    In the photos shown I would suggest that the exposure bias is the big problem. Therefore the question I have is what were you trying to accomplish with the exposure bias set at +1?

    The Exposure bias was a mistake. I definitely have some work to do.

    I removed one shot and changed the others to ones that are right out of camera.
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  • dbaker1221dbaker1221 Registered Users Posts: 4,482 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2011
    You can't really help blowing out the stands. You were shooting in shade and the opposing stands were still in the sun. You either blow out the stands or don't get a shot at all. I think they are all overexposed some with #4 being the best. Most people don't mind alittle blown so you can pick up details on their face from under the mask......Maybe move downfield more so you can get them running at you more than beside you..especially if you are shooting for the Raiders. You wanna get him coming at you not running past you. ...
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