How much do I charge (somewhere in the ball park)

SportsNutPhotosSportsNutPhotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
edited August 13, 2011 in Mind Your Own Business
Need advice if someone can help me on this...The following is what I sent to SmugMug Support.....

Good Morning,

Received this email requesting digital copies for personal and possibly commercial use.

This is new to me and actually somewhat intimidating. Seems like a lot of legal stuff going on......I read the following:
Photographer grants buyer a non-exclusive perpetual personal-use license to download and copy the accompanying image, subject to the following restrictions:

a.. This license is for personal use only. Personal use means non-commercial use of the image(s) for display on personal websites and computers, or making prints for personal use. The image(s) may not be used in any way whatsoever in which you charge money, collect fees, or receive any form of remuneration. The image(s) may not be used in advertising. The image(s) may not be resold, relicensed, or sub-licensed.
b.. Title and ownership, and all rights now and in the future, of and for the image(s) remain exclusively with the photographer.
c.. There are no warranties, express or implied. The image(s) are provided 'as is.'
d.. Neither photographer nor SmugMug will be liable for any third party claims or incidental, consequential or other damages arising out of this license or buyer's use of the image(s).
View Commercial License

What you can do: Photographer grants you a perpetual, non-exclusive, non-transferable, worldwide license to use this image for permitted commercial purposes, defined as:

a.. advertising, promotion, brochures, packaging
b.. as part of a commercial website for promotional purposes (maximum 800x600pixels) use
c.. prints, posters, flyers, tearsheets for promotional purposes (not for resale)
d.. prints, posters, or other commercial display of image
e.. magazines, books, newspapers, other printed publications
f.. video, broadcast, theatrical
What you may not do: Buyer may not resell, relicense, redistribute without express written permission from photographer. Use as a derivative work, and reselling or redistributing such derivative work is prohibited. Images may not be used in a pornographic, obscene, illegal, immoral, libelous or defamatory manner. Images may not be incorporated into trademarks, logos, or service marks. Image may not be made available for download.

Photographer retains all rights, license, copyright, title and ownership of the image(s).

There is no warranty, express or implied, with the purchase of this digital image file. Neither photographer



I need your help!



* I don’t want to over charge or under charge...What do most charge for this, can you put me into a ballpark price?



* Do I need to send him the above information or a “written consent permission” letter? Is there a standard letter a photographer has to send?




If they re-sale the photo, and I do not give permission, Does that mean I receive a percentage?






Your Super Photo Taker...Hero




Dave




SportsNutPhotos.com

Comments

  • Cygnus StudiosCygnus Studios Registered Users Posts: 2,294 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2011
    The smugmug license is pretty broad and basically allows buyers (personal and commercial) to use the image indefinitely within the terms that they aren't reselling the image to others.

    Personally, our studio doesn't use this. If photography is going to be your business (part or full time) I highly suggest having your attorney draw up your usage agreements.

    As to what to charge, that is honestly up to you.

    There is no such thing as an industry average. What is too cheap or too expensive is an opinion, and trust me, there are plenty of those. Put a number on it that you and you alone are comfortable with and don't worry about what others are doing.

    If you aren't selling, the odds are that your price is too high for the work.
    If you are selling a lot, the odds are that your price is too low for the work.
    Steve

    Website
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2011
    15524779-Ti.gif with Cygnus Studio here...to many people try say you need to charge as put forth by such and such book......the problem here is that book was written by a photog in a certain area and while his/her methodology might be great for his area...it may not be worth anything in another area......but those books are great for showing a process of figuring out what one needs to charge a fair price.......they show you what to take into consideration for coming up with your pricing....

    Good Luck.
    "Genuine Fractals was, is and will always be the best solution for enlarging digital photos." ....Vincent Versace ... ... COPYRIGHT YOUR WORK ONLINE ... ... My Website

  • SportsNutPhotosSportsNutPhotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited August 11, 2011
    Art Scott wrote: »
    15524779-Ti.gif with Cygnus Studio here...to many people try say you need to charge as put forth by such and such book......the problem here is that book was written by a photog in a certain area and while his/her methodology might be great for his area...it may not be worth anything in another area......but those books are great for showing a process of figuring out what one needs to charge a fair price.......they show you what to take into consideration for coming up with your pricing....

    Good Luck.



    Thank you
  • SportsNutPhotosSportsNutPhotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited August 11, 2011
    The smugmug license is pretty broad and basically allows buyers (personal and commercial) to use the image indefinitely within the terms that they aren't reselling the image to others.

    Personally, our studio doesn't use this. If photography is going to be your business (part or full time) I highly suggest having your attorney draw up your usage agreements.

    As to what to charge, that is honestly up to you.

    There is no such thing as an industry average. What is too cheap or too expensive is an opinion, and trust me, there are plenty of those. Put a number on it that you and you alone are comfortable with and don't worry about what others are doing.

    If you aren't selling, the odds are that your price is too high for the work.
    If you are selling a lot, the odds are that your price is too low for the work.


    Thank You!

    Thank You
  • Mark DickinsonMark Dickinson Registered Users Posts: 337 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2011
    sarcastically, ANYTHING over the base price + commission so you make enough profit.
  • volleyshotsvolleyshots Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited August 12, 2011
    This may help to get you into ballpark range:

    http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm
  • SportsNutPhotosSportsNutPhotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited August 13, 2011
    ty volleyshots
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