Keyword Problem

dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
edited January 23, 2012 in SmugMug Support
I've been having a problem assigning keywords to pictures. Every once in a while I'll get a picture that shows no keywords in details even though I assigned it keywords. If I use the Caption / Keyword tool the picture keywords are still shown as there. But if I hit save and check details the picture still shows no keywords and a keyword search will not find the picture.

I have to delete the picture and re-upload it and add the keyword to get it to work. In most cases the keyword generation is almost instantaneous, but when it doesn't work it is still not there a day later.

Here is an example of a picture I loaded earlier today and the keywords I assigned it do not show in details.

http://www.dennismullen.com/Landscapes/Landscapes/3120616_fB36p9#1485369301_R4q9pmq-A-LB

Cheers,
See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com

Comments

  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2011
    I would say let our indexing catch up, the keywords are assigned to the photo but just not being displayed yet.
  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    I would say let our indexing catch up, the keywords are assigned to the photo but just not being displayed yet.

    Maybe, but if I upload a picture right after it. It's keywords will be there in seconds.

    Cheers,
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    A gallery page doesn't auto refresh when keywords are indexed. Once the keyword indexing is done and you refresh the gallery page, it'll show the keyword. Uploading a photo to the gallery doesn't speed up keyword indexing.
    Sebastian
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  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    I would say let our indexing catch up, the keywords are assigned to the photo but just not being displayed yet.

    It's a day later and the keyword indexing has still not "caught up". How long should I wait before I get concerned?

    Cheers,
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    Actually, it sounds as if you used the caption/keyword tool in the meantime. If you select save in that tool while your photos are still queued for indexing, all that does is add your photos to the end of the queue. Depending on how many photos are awaiting indexing, it can take a while. I'd recommend that you just leave it be and once the photos are done indexing, you'll be able to use the keywords.
    Thanks for your patience and understanding.

    Note that the gallery description in your above linked gallery contains an incomplete tag. Please make sure to close all tags properly to prevent issues. Any not closed html tags may cause problems, even just in specific browsers.
    Sebastian
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  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    That doesn't make sense. I can upload a picture right now and it will index it's keywords in seconds.
    There is a problem here.

    Cheers,
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2011
    OK, I had to delete the file and upload it again after two days have gone by without the keywords indexing even though if you use the Keyword / Caption tool it shows they are there.
    After deleting and re-loading the file the index was there in seconds. Now I feel the need to check the keywords on every file I upload. :)



    Still having troubles with keywords not working!
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2012
    Still having troubles with keywords not working!
    I uploaded this picture and a day later the keywords will not show up.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/More-Birds/5125524_xw69ZF#!i=1679761867&k=wKQzNPf
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2012
    Still having troubles with keywords not working!
    I uploaded this picture and a day later the keywords will not show up.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/More-Birds/5125524_xw69ZF#!i=1679761867&k=wKQzNPf
    You are hiding the keywords with CSS, if you remove the CSS you can see the keywords there on the photo.

    20120121-j3nyw5as5r23ujup53yrdbrg7d.jpg
  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2012
    That's not the problem. A keyword search only finally found that picture today!
    Here's one I uploaded today. Go to my keywords and choose the first keyword "_all_pictures".
    It's not there.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/Animals/3112001_tpnfJp#!i=1681397924&k=Tzj4CPT

    Cheers,
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2012
    Can you take another look?

    I toggled the 'hello smuggers' setting off and on in the gallery settings of the gallery. That should have taken care of it by re-indexing the gallery.
    Sebastian
    SmugMug Support Hero
  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2012
    Can you take another look?

    I toggled the 'hello smuggers' setting off and on in the gallery settings of the gallery. That should have taken care of it by re-indexing the gallery.

    Hi Sebastian,

    The keyword is there now but it took till today. Normally it only takes a few seconds to index.
    If it doesn't do it right away it never does. I have to constantly monitor my pictures to make sure the keywords take.
    It shouldn't be necessary to have you keep fixing it on your end.

    Cheers,
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • NaturebiteNaturebite Registered Users Posts: 60 Big grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Hi Sebastian,

    The keyword is there now but it took till today. Normally it only takes a few seconds to index.
    If it doesn't do it right away it never does. I have to constantly monitor my pictures to make sure the keywords take.
    It shouldn't be necessary to have you keep fixing it on your end.

    Cheers,

    I had the same issue. Still keyword indexes do not operate!

    Helpdesk said as follows:
    "Our keyword index is a little lagged at the moment and it is taking longer than normal for the keywords to be indexed. Can you check back in a few hours to see if all of the photos in the gallery have been updated with keywords. Thanks for your patience in this matter.
    Have a great day,
    Shay,
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Naturebite wrote: »
    I had the same issue. Still keyword indexes do not operate!

    Helpdesk said as follows:
    "Our keyword index is a little lagged at the moment and it is taking longer than normal for the keywords to be indexed. Can you check back in a few hours to see if all of the photos in the gallery have been updated with keywords. Thanks for your patience in this matter.
    Have a great day,
    Shay,
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  • NaturebiteNaturebite Registered Users Posts: 60 Big grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Andy wrote: »
    Take another look? ear.gif

    Thanks Andy - all safe thumb.gif
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  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Keywords on new uploads are still not working. I uploaded and assigned keywords to this picture yesterday.
    If I open the keyword tool it shows the keywords, but a search with the keyword does not produce the picture.
    Under info the picture shows no keywords.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/More-Birds/5125524_xw69ZF#!i=1682326464&k=4Jz9SmH
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Keywords on new uploads are still not working. I uploaded and assigned keywords to this picture yesterday.
    If I open the keyword tool it shows the keywords, but a search with the keyword does not produce the picture.
    Under info the picture shows no keywords.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/More-Birds/5125524_xw69ZF#!i=1682326464&k=4Jz9SmH

    Dennis try again in a few minutes and let me know.
  • NaturebiteNaturebite Registered Users Posts: 60 Big grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Keywords on new uploads are still not working. I uploaded and assigned keywords to this picture yesterday.
    If I open the keyword tool it shows the keywords, but a search with the keyword does not produce the picture.
    Under info the picture shows no keywords.

    http://www.dennismullen.com/Animals/More-Birds/5125524_xw69ZF#!i=1682326464&k=4Jz9SmH

    This helped me (copy the uploaded photo) - check out the post http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1729590&postcount=4 (if you have 1 or 2 photos)

    Risto
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  • dennismullendennismullen Registered Users Posts: 709 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Andy wrote: »
    Dennis try again in a few minutes and let me know.

    Yes it is there now, but I can't leave you a message every time I upload a file to fix it!
    See my gallery at http://www.dennismullen.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Yes it is there now, but I can't leave you a message every time I upload a file to fix it!

    Of course not. We're looking at this.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    Is the que backed up? Only 1 0f 16 photos added this morning here show KW's yet.

    ... and only 5 of 16 are picked up by the date page?
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2012
    We think we've nailed this issue and things should be back to normal later today. Sorry for the problem, folks.
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