DOH !!! Sorry mike..i forgot that bit + they have all those 'cool' widgets i dont need.
that should bring 'em out
Ok I'll bite....I do prefer the brushed metal to the blue screen of death, which I suppose is one advantage... .
But seriously, after switching back to mac after PC's for 15 yrs - its just refreshing to have ALOT of my time back. I still do have to use both platforms due to work, and both have their advantages etc. But, in terms of the amount of time and energy I need to invest simply keeping the product running and working, the mac holds a huge advantage for me.
Oh, and the mighty mouse rocks in my opinion. Love the trackball, and once programmed to your liking it flies. Others do much the same for less but I like it.
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Gus (whom is still waiting for someone to tell him what a mac will do better)
:bigbs Old ground, we've covered it before but i will indulge. What does a Mac do better? Keep it's owner happier. Less, if any, real system maintenance. No registry files to get corrupted. Installing and uninstalling software takes 1/2 the time and usually only requires dragging the new app icon to your apps folder. Networking? Automatic. Viruses, trojans, worms, etc? None. Switching to Mac since Jan 2005 has saved me an hour or two every week, week in, week out. That's a huge savings.
It runs Photoshop, for all intents and purposes, the same on a like-for-like configured computer. So better? I'm not saying Mac does it better than PC but it does it way more elegantly, with much more ease, and peace of mind. After 11 months, I can say that the OS is more elegant and intuitive, too.
Hope this helps Personally, I don't care what people buy. It's all good, the big win boxes are sweet, too. Mostly it's personal preference and people stuck in a rut that don't switch. Rarely it's becuause there's not a piece of sw that's required to be run, and it's PC only.
But I'll tell you this: how many PC owners can promise every single new PC owner free tech support for life? I'll give anyone who buys a MAC free tech support for life,and I can do that becuase I know that they'll rarely, if ever, need it.
Just an FYI on RAM... check places like NewEgg. I recently purchased some Crucial RAM there for less than the same RAM on crucial.com.
On the Mac vs PC issue... well, there are Mac people and there are PC people, and that's about all there is to it. You'll have as much luck converting someone from one side or the other as you will from one political party to another.
I'm not saying Mac does it better than PC but it does it way more elegantly, with much more ease, and peace of mind. After 11 months, I can say that the OS is more elegant and intuitive, too.
I think Andy said it well. I switched to a duel G5 in May,04 (10 years PC) and love it. The Dell ,which I still have, was/is pretty rock solid I still use it sometimes and it drives me nuts. My biggest gripe is playing 20 questions with a machine..are you SURE you want to do that? Positive? yada, yada. If I had never got a Mac I wouldn't know that was a 'gripe':D I know quite a bit less about the Mac than the PC simply because I haven't needed to know, yet. Dealing with my ISP is quite easy, no 20 questions from them either, love that. Plus hubby is off the hook from me buying a new PC every year, I get board I'll just add more ram.
Beyond all that I just flat out love the inside of a G5, work of art
i'm a newbie here but 've been using a mac since 1988, and i've used PS from version 1.0.0... and i've used the mac and photoshop professionally for years. not for my own digital photography but for creating images using 3D modelling programs and compositing images, and correcting and retouching scans, etc.
the thing that strikes me is the concentration here on a state of the art, top of the range mac. people look at the price and blanche.
here's a suggestion for those who like a mac but couldn't afford the price tag... you can get a way with a lot less money and still go mac. if you have the money, sure get a dual proc G5. but even one of those dinky little minis *will* do the job. just add a good quality monitor, max out the ram, get a stylus and tablet, the biggest hard disk... just get the best you can afford and... have fun with your hassle-free mac!
i've been using ps since it first arrived and i tell you it *isn't* that taxing on your computer. it used to be when computers were much much slower. and sure some of the filters can still give the computer a workout, but who spends all their time applying complex filter after filter?
digital images from cameras are small folks. 22mb is *nothing*. i've worked on 120mb scans on computers with way, way less power than the mini. i remember once having to composite an image of a number of shots for a A3 front cover. that was about a half dozen images of about 50mb each. with... 8 megs of ram. i hadn't the time to get more ram for the computer. it was new. it just had the standard 8 megs in it. and it was a sloooooow computer compared to today's offerings. i wouldn't recommend it. but it did it.
so, if you'd like a mac, but don't like the price tag, consider something more modest.
I use both a Mac and a Windows XP box. I must say they both are able to perform all the tasks they were built to do. Both are computers, and both crash. Windows has the BSOD. Mac OS X has their multilingual kernel panic. I've experienced both, and in the same frequency. Mac System Update installs security patches on the same regular basis as Windows XP. I do believe that the Mac has a better universal user experience, but I think the ease of use of Macs is exaggerated. For example, contrary to popular belief, Mac applications are not as easy to uninstall as to junk the application icon. I mean, do that and take a look at the preferences folder, and you'll see what I mean: lots of residue there. On my Mac I have been forced to kill some persistent memory by pressing three buttons on my keyboard at some exact moment on starting up, for an exact amount of time, otherwise my iBook would hang again. Now who calls that easy to do or undestand? I do prefer the Mac apps not installing DLL's, since DLL hell is what bothers me most on the Windows platform. In short: I like using both, but I don't believe in either. Both are capable platforms. If I'll get a new desktop, I might replace the Win box with a Mac. Not because I'm a believer, but because the Apple industrial design is so darned sexy. Only Sony is in their league in my opinion. And of course (Olympus user here) I just gotta love the underdog.
I am using Mac (osx tiger) and Windows Xp (sp2) and I like both platsforms. I feel I getting more options with a PC like adding extra internal harddrives, change DVD-rom and so on. Its not allowed to open a mac and install other hardware. Is'nt it? More controll over the hardware in a Pc. :-) But I love Macs to. The OS is superb. But the finder needs to be updated I think, and the SMB needs update.
Its not allowed to open a mac and install other hardware. Is'nt it?
Oh yes, it's allowed. Macs use the same optical and hard drives as PCs, and the towers have slots. I have installed many non-Apple components in my Apple desktops and even in my Apple laptops (replaced RAM and the hard drives). The G5 towers have a very easy-to-open side door so you can replace drives and PCI cards.
Oh yes, it's allowed. Macs use the same optical and hard drives as PCs, and the towers have slots. I have installed many non-Apple components in my Apple desktops and even in my Apple laptops (replaced RAM and the hard drives). The G5 towers have a very easy-to-open side door so you can replace drives and PCI cards.
A new PC for Psotoshop
I have looked at the original thread on this subject (2005) but there have been many new innovations since forum members gave those suggestions and I wondered if anyone would care to suggest a design for a 'diy' home-build PC to be used primarily with Photoshop taking advantage of the newer hardware and the recent price reductions by Intel and AMD
I have read the Mac comments and appreciate that many still feel that Mac is the way to go - however I wish to go down the PC route and would be grateful for any suggestions covering : (I have a budget of USD 2000 - USD 2500) Choice of :
1) motherboard - plus power supply reomendations
2) processor - plus cooling considerations
3) Number of HDDs - type - capacity - ( I read somewhere that 3 was a good choice)
a) where to put OS
b) scratch disk
c) where to put apps
4) memory
5) video / graphics card
6) sound card (to play music while working)
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Ok I'll bite....I do prefer the brushed metal to the blue screen of death, which I suppose is one advantage...
But seriously, after switching back to mac after PC's for 15 yrs - its just refreshing to have ALOT of my time back. I still do have to use both platforms due to work, and both have their advantages etc. But, in terms of the amount of time and energy I need to invest simply keeping the product running and working, the mac holds a huge advantage for me.
Oh, and the mighty mouse rocks in my opinion. Love the trackball, and once programmed to your liking it flies. Others do much the same for less but I like it.
:bigbs Old ground, we've covered it before
It runs Photoshop, for all intents and purposes, the same on a like-for-like configured computer. So better? I'm not saying Mac does it better than PC but it does it way more elegantly, with much more ease, and peace of mind. After 11 months, I can say that the OS is more elegant and intuitive, too.
Hope this helps
But I'll tell you this: how many PC owners can promise every single new PC owner free tech support for life? I'll give anyone who buys a MAC free tech support for life,and I can do that becuase I know that they'll rarely, if ever, need it.
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4's plenty - I'm actually going to only use 4 at first and then maybe return 2gb - will see how it performs
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On the Mac vs PC issue... well, there are Mac people and there are PC people, and that's about all there is to it. You'll have as much luck converting someone from one side or the other as you will from one political party to another.
Beyond all that I just flat out love the inside of a G5, work of art
the thing that strikes me is the concentration here on a state of the art, top of the range mac. people look at the price and blanche.
here's a suggestion for those who like a mac but couldn't afford the price tag... you can get a way with a lot less money and still go mac. if you have the money, sure get a dual proc G5. but even one of those dinky little minis *will* do the job. just add a good quality monitor, max out the ram, get a stylus and tablet, the biggest hard disk... just get the best you can afford and... have fun with your hassle-free mac!
i've been using ps since it first arrived and i tell you it *isn't* that taxing on your computer. it used to be when computers were much much slower. and sure some of the filters can still give the computer a workout, but who spends all their time applying complex filter after filter?
digital images from cameras are small folks. 22mb is *nothing*. i've worked on 120mb scans on computers with way, way less power than the mini. i remember once having to composite an image of a number of shots for a A3 front cover. that was about a half dozen images of about 50mb each. with... 8 megs of ram. i hadn't the time to get more ram for the computer. it was new. it just had the standard 8 megs in it. and it was a sloooooow computer compared to today's offerings. i wouldn't recommend it. but it did it.
so, if you'd like a mac, but don't like the price tag, consider something more modest.
Oh yes, it's allowed. Macs use the same optical and hard drives as PCs, and the towers have slots. I have installed many non-Apple components in my Apple desktops and even in my Apple laptops (replaced RAM and the hard drives). The G5 towers have a very easy-to-open side door so you can replace drives and PCI cards.
News item: "MaxConnect allows up to 7 hard disks in new Power Macs"
I have looked at the original thread on this subject (2005) but there have been many new innovations since forum members gave those suggestions and I wondered if anyone would care to suggest a design for a 'diy' home-build PC to be used primarily with Photoshop taking advantage of the newer hardware and the recent price reductions by Intel and AMD
I have read the Mac comments and appreciate that many still feel that Mac is the way to go - however I wish to go down the PC route and would be grateful for any suggestions covering : (I have a budget of USD 2000 - USD 2500) Choice of :
1) motherboard - plus power supply reomendations
2) processor - plus cooling considerations
3) Number of HDDs - type - capacity - ( I read somewhere that 3 was a good choice)
a) where to put OS
b) scratch disk
c) where to put apps
4) memory
5) video / graphics card
6) sound card (to play music while working)
In short - everything !
many thanks