#1 is superior. The conversion takes a beautiful, fairly complex image, and turns it into a somber shot of a man playing a guitar on a wall, with the Golden Gate in the background. If you want a somber image of a guy playing the guitar in that situation I just mentioned, fine, but you asked for an assessment of both of these stacked up, and the world would vote for #1.
Typically I tend to prefer BW, but in this case color works better. I like the long wall to the left, but have you tried a crop that would shorten it a bit? I think it would enhance the bridge and add a greater sense of depth.
BW for me, no question. #1 is a sunset (cliche, cliche, cliche) with a blob of something in the way; #2 is a great street shot of a guy with a bike playing a guitar (both of which interest me) who happens to be in a location with an pleasant view.
BW for me, no question. #1 is a sunset (cliche, cliche, cliche) with a blob of something in the way; #2 is a great street shot of a guy with a bike playing a guitar (both of which interest me) who happens to be in a location with an pleasant view.
I don't think you can compare one with the other. They're two completely different photographs. The first picture is about color. The bright sky so subdues the shadows in that one that even the guitarist gets lost and doesn't matter. As Sara says, #1 is a stale cliche, but #2 is an actual street shot about a guy, off his bike, playing a guitar on top of a wall next to a body of water. The sky's still interesting, but it's not what the picture's about.
BW for me, no question. #1 is a sunset (cliche, cliche, cliche) with a blob of something in the way; #2 is a great street shot of a guy with a bike playing a guitar (both of which interest me) who happens to be in a location with an pleasant view.
BINGO! Two which I'll add that the sunset, as sunset's go, ain't much of a sunset. So in the color version, you've got a blob against a so-so sunset, while in the black and white you've got an interest scene. What I would do with the black and white is burn in the sky somewhat, which will make it more obvious that it's a sunset, and will increase interest in the top half of the image.
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The shot isn't of good quality; it was taken with my new V1 and only God knows where the focus point was.
I don't do PS so i can't really selectively process. I thought the color gave greater subject separation; the b&w looked a little flat (to me); both pretty noisy.
I'm a sunrise/sunset - moonrise/moonset freak. Technically this period is civil twilight (half hour +/- before sunrise - after sunset), according to US Naval Observatory
thanks for looking in folks and for the comments, much appreciated
The shot isn't of good quality; it was taken with my new V1 and only God knows where the focus point was.
I don't do PS so i can't really selectively process. I thought the color gave greater subject separation; the b&w looked a little flat (to me); both pretty noisy.
I'm a sunrise/sunset - moonrise/moonset freak. Technically this period is civil twilight (half hour +/- before sunrise - after sunset), according to US Naval Observatory
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That's one awfully beautiful cliché, then.
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BINGO! Two which I'll add that the sunset, as sunset's go, ain't much of a sunset. So in the color version, you've got a blob against a so-so sunset, while in the black and white you've got an interest scene. What I would do with the black and white is burn in the sky somewhat, which will make it more obvious that it's a sunset, and will increase interest in the top half of the image.
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The shot isn't of good quality; it was taken with my new V1 and only God knows where the focus point was.
I don't do PS so i can't really selectively process. I thought the color gave greater subject separation; the b&w looked a little flat (to me); both pretty noisy.
I'm a sunrise/sunset - moonrise/moonset freak. Technically this period is civil twilight (half hour +/- before sunrise - after sunset), according to US Naval Observatory
this is a sunset (maybe not streotypical... )
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