Help me please wireless Nikon shooters
Please somebody help me before I shoot myself! Call me stupid (that's how desperate I am!):whip ... I just can't seem to figure out why my wireless isn't working (been a natural light / on camera flash girl for ... well ... forever .... I *really* want to make the switch, but the flash God is just not on my side) cry:cry
Here's what I have:
I can not get my flash working in either cases (SU-800 nor the PowerSync). The flash works great on camera and with a cord, but whenever I try to go wireless it won't (not even the test buttons get it to work).
PLEASE tell me, what am I doing wrong?? Is it in my settings? Is it my (by now very) bitchy aura?? :dunno
1. PowerSync16:
SU-800:
Here's what I have:
- Nikon D3
- 1 x SB-900
- 1 x SU-800
- 1 x PowerSync16 receiver / transmitter
PLEASE tell me, what am I doing wrong?? Is it in my settings? Is it my (by now very) bitchy aura?? :dunno
1. PowerSync16:
- they are both on the same frequency
- the batteries are working and both devices are on
SU-800:
- I believe the SB-900 should work with the SU-800 (without a receiver, right???)
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Ugh, that's kinda what I tried, but no luck ........... :cry
Your flash is in manual?
I think it should be on TTL according to the SU
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That's what I thought too, but when I have it set to remote I can only choose between manual and auto (where the photo will be black-black) *sigh*
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14-24 24-70 70-200mm (vr2)
85 and 50 1.4
45 PC and sb910 x2
http://www.danielkimphotography.com
You can set the SB-900 for remote operation using the
Off/On/Remote/Master setting switch.
1. Turn the switch while holding down the button in the center.
2. Align the index on the Off/On/Remote/Master switch
to REMOTE.
Setting a group and channel number on the remote flash units
1. Press the Function button 1, then turn the selector dial to choose
a desired group name, and press the OK button.
Group name and channel number being set appears larger.
For remote flash units where the flash mode and flash output level
compensation values are to be set identically, place these flash units
into the same group.
2. Press the Function button 2, then turn the selector dial to
choose a desired channel number, and press the OK button.
Be sure to choose the same channel number as set on the
Once you have the 900 set, use the same group on the su800 for control and the 800 will change everything for you, you don't have to touch the 900 again. ie, if the 900 is on group A, the su800 group A setting will control the output of the 900. From the photo above, it's in ttl mode with +3 ev. You can change it to 0ev and you can change from ttl to manual, etc.
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Yes!! Thank you! That's what I was thinking also .... But then I obviously don't know anything about the whole wireless thing. How do you think I should attack the problem?
So right now with the SU setup I get a VERY underexposed photo in the auto mode (flash is on auto / SU is on ttl) and an ok photo in manual 1/4 +0.7Ev (on my flash) and SU still on ttl.
*any input* is helpful at this point.
Thanks so much guys!
1) with SU in TTL mode, the EV is not set negative correct for that channel and group?
2) your camera body is not inadvertently set to neg EV correct?
3) you are shooting at reasonable flash to subject distance with unobstucted line of sight from the SU 800 to the IR port on the SB900 right?
4) you are not shooting in a cave right?
5) instead of using SU800, do you have another SB900 or SB800 to check to see if the SU800 is an issue?
6) you are not spot metering correct?
7) all your batteries are charged correct?
Send me a batch homemade oatmeal chocolate chip cookies (semi sweet) when you tick through this list and find your issue!
14-24 24-70 70-200mm (vr2)
85 and 50 1.4
45 PC and sb910 x2
http://www.danielkimphotography.com
(Edit to add a bit of history: Nikon flashes have an "SU-4" remote mode that is customizable in the menu for remote settings, this is a throwback to an old optical trigger accessory called an SU-4 I believe, not sure. But optical remote triggering has nothing to do with Nikon's wireless CLS, in fact with the right camera settings SU-4 mode will give you wireless flash for ANY camera, even a point & shoot.)
Even though the SB900 now has a physical switch for remote / master etc, there is still a setting in the custom menu that controls what TYPE of remote it actually is.
Complicated, but that's part of the benefit of shooting Nikon- more options, more versatility, once you can master it.
BTW, dump the Power Syncs and get a set of better triggers, for when you need radio reliability insted of CLS. SLR Lounge is in the process of testing these triggers, and so far the results are very good: http://scottrobertla.com/scott-robert-studio/srs-radio-trigger-system/ They're a little more pricey than the average Ebay junk, but they come with a warranty and a great, thorough tutorial video on everything Scott knows about how to use simple wirless flash setups to rock any type of portrait...
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http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/Speedlights/SB-900_en.pdf
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... And haha about shooting in a cave )) nope, I have a big window right next to me and my umbrella is about 60 inches away from my .... Let's call it 'still life' aka mess on my dresser )) )
Thank you all!
this sounds correct..that explains why manual worked but not TTL.
edit: angie please send cookies anyway for the brain cells I lost today
14-24 24-70 70-200mm (vr2)
85 and 50 1.4
45 PC and sb910 x2
http://www.danielkimphotography.com
My husband just told me to tell you guys THANK YOU from him, as I was getting a liiiiitle bit grouchy in the last couple of days Seriously though, THANKS to all of you!
Thank you for your help! ... I seriously thought I had to have it on TTL (which just shows how little I know I guess)
And thanks also to you, Qarik! You mentioned some great points, that anybody should check if they have any issues with their flashes!
Ahhh! I wish, but I spent enough money on gadgets recently and the PowerSyncs work now, wohooo!
Cyber homemade cookies for everybody on here, you sure saved me! :eat
Helllllllooooooo creative flash photography .... ahhhh the possibilities
THANK YOU!
That was a nice way to spend $100. Yay me. Well, had fun while it lasted. Good thing my SB-900 is still in one piece.
Aww, that's a bummer! Well, keep practicing with CLS and the SU-800 while you can; and if you eventually feel the need for the reliable signal of radio again, get one of these:
http://blackbeltlighting.com/products-page/speedlites-and-triggers/4-channel-wireless-flash-triggers-3-receivers/
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Good luck getting this all figured out!! I am sure it will be worth it once you do .
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I'm pretty sure it's some worthless mode that you don't need. Just shoot manual! If you really, really need a remote flash to be in TTL, then get some Radio Poppers or just use the built-in system with a 7D or STE-2... (BTW however, I haven't needed this in 5+ years of full-time work using wireless flash...)
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Why not just call em up and ask. They have their number posted on the site. If they're anything like Gadget Infinity, they'll explain quickly and simply. For those that NEED ttL Gadget infinity does sell a set that at least works with Nikon in ttL mode. But, if ttL isn't needed, you'll always be able to save some coin.