Tethering New Firewire 800 and Original

vdotmatrix

Hello All.
The on going saga of switching to Mac after decades of Windows has been an eye opener but I am not going back.


I until recently shot tethered from Windows laptop LR3.6 to my Canon Mark IIs using the original firewire cable , I think it is a 4 pin?

My new Mac Book Pro arrives sometime this week and it comes with fire 800 9-pin connector.

My camera only tethers with firewire so I was wondering if anyone knows if i used a 4-pin to 9-pin connector/cable, if I will still be able to shoot tethered but at FW-400 speeds?

Anyone have this same setup?

Icebear

:lurk

DavidTO

vdotmatrix wrote: »

Hello All.
The on going saga of switching to Mac after decades of Windows has been an eye opener but I am not going back.


I until recently shot tethered from Windows laptop LR3.6 to my Canon Mark IIs using the original firewire cable , I think it is a 4 pin?

My new Mac Book Pro arrives sometime this week and it comes with fire 800 9-pin connector.

My camera only tethers with firewire so I was wondering if anyone knows if i used a 4-pin to 9-pin connector/cable, if I will still be able to shoot tethered but at FW-400 speeds?

Anyone have this same setup?

I sure think so. Video cameras input via FW like that. Please post your results!

ziggy53

Drivers and software compatibility are the potential sources of problems. It looks like Aperture 2 may work with OS X 10.5 Leopard:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1085

For Canon software, just match up the OS and software updates:

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_1d_mark_ii#DriversAndSoftware

For the cable, it looks like this should work:

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=610&sku=50708#ReviewHeader

mstens

DavidTO wrote: »

I sure think so. Video cameras input via FW like that. Please post your results!

FW800 is indeed backward compatible with FW400. Even in a daisy-chain.. although I'd always put FW400 last in a chain.. so the 800 stuff isn't slowed down by it.

vdotmatrix

Thanks Ziggy! The LION 10.7.3 improbably what it ships with.

So I figured out that this will indeed allow me to tether my Canon MArkIIs with my MBP.

The only other issue I have now is what different Manuf call there firewire product.

The monkey wrench in the works is when then say it is a DV firewire cable as oppose to a regular firewire. Is there any difference before I order this...thank in advance to EVERYONE.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...Pearstone_FW_9415_FireWire_9_Pin_to_4_Pin.html
this one if 15ft

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...n_F3N403_06_APL_FireWire_400_800_9_pin_to.html
this one is about 6ft.

ziggy53 wrote: »

Drivers and software compatibility are the potential sources of problems. It looks like Aperture 2 may work with OS X 10.5 Leopard:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1085

For Canon software, just match up the OS and software updates:

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_1d_mark_ii#DriversAndSoftware

For the cable, it looks like this should work:

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=610&sku=50708#ReviewHeader

vdotmatrix

SORRY I MUST HAVE BEEN LOGGED INTO b&h THRU my NAPP membership:

This standard, black FireWire 9-Pin to 4-Pin Cable from Pearstone provides a link between newer devices that feature the 9-pin FireWire 800 connection and older 4-pin FireWire devices. Top transfer speed is limited by the 4-pin FireWire 400Mb/s rate.

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15' (4.5 m) cable length
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THE OTHER IS

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This cable complies with IEEE 1394b standards for reducing radio frequency and electromagnetic interference.

vdotmatrix wrote: »

Thanks Ziggy! The LION 10.7.3 improbably what it ships with.

So I figured out that this will indeed allow me to tether my Canon MArkIIs with my MBP.

The only other issue I have now is what different Manuf call there firewire product.

The monkey wrench in the works is when then say it is a DV firewire cable as oppose to a regular firewire. Is there any difference before I order this...thank in advance to EVERYONE.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...Pearstone_FW_9415_FireWire_9_Pin_to_4_Pin.html
this one if 15ft

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...n_F3N403_06_APL_FireWire_400_800_9_pin_to.html
this one is about 6ft.

vdotmatrix

http://www.pearstone.com/detail?sku=688798
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> this one if 15ft
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I finally got all the hardware together and the above cable and fired everything up.

Lightroom detected the camera no problem but would not transfer images nor would it display any camera settings. So I could not shoot tethered.

I shoot tethered with no problem on my windows laptop but the difference here of course is the MBP and the cable is FW-800 9 pin to plug in to the new MBP to a 4-pin that plugs in to the camera.

NO JOY...

I suspect the cable may be too long to transmit a signal to and from the camera?

ANY THOUGHTS?

DavidTO

Can you try via USB?

vdotmatrix

DavidTO wrote: »

Can you try via USB?

I could but I know the Canon Mark IIs does not support USB and ONLY firewire 400 4-pin from the day.

Thanks

DavidTO

vdotmatrix wrote: »

I could but I know the Canon Mark IIs does not support USB and ONLY firewire 400 4-pin from the day.

Thanks

Huh. My 5D tethers USB, and I know that works to my Macs. I can't test FW, as the 5D doesn't have it!

DavidTO

Adobe's support documents only mention USB tethering, as far as I can see.

vdotmatrix

DavidTO wrote: »

Huh. My 5D tethers USB, and I know that works to my Macs. I can't test FW, as the 5D doesn't have it!

Thanks Dave. Thats how my particuar camera rolls.:

vdotmatrix

DavidTO wrote: »

Adobe's support documents only mention USB tethering, as far as I can see.

Hey thanks for your input, but my camera model only supports firewire OK. Thanks for responding.

ziggy53

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/tethered-camera-support-lightroom-4.html
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/WS67a9e0c3a11b14966badab91285ff688ee-8000.html
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/894/cpsid_89486.html

vdotmatrix

ziggy53 wrote: »

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/tethered-camera-support-lightroom-4.html
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/WS67a9e0c3a11b14966badab91285ff688ee-8000.html
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/894/cpsid_89486.html

Hi Ziggy...The last link had anything I could process and that being item #7 where they want me to delete a certain hidden file or folder in Mac OSx.

I will have to try and do that...

The first link spelled it out that my model camera is firewire only unless somehow LR4 allows me to use USB and that would be groovy but I do not think that has transpired...

I have used LR3.6 in the studio tethered with no problem..it is just using LR on a mac with new firewire gig..

so many variables hope i can work this to soon.

vdotmatrix

Hello EVERYONE. I am ecstatic and happy to announce that your concerted efforts have solved this critical problem I had. The solution was indeed resolved by #7 and after i deleted the hidden lightroom preference folder in my library the tethering worked as it always had in windows....WINDOWS good riddance!

Thanks to everyone and this forum who time and time again saves everyone countless dollars and hours of grief with knowledgable information.....

I cannot thank you ALL enough.

Vincent

vdotmatrix wrote: »

Hi Ziggy...The last link had anything I could process and that being item #7 where they want me to delete a certain hidden file or folder in Mac OSx.

I will have to try and do that...

The first link spelled it out that my model camera is firewire only unless somehow LR4 allows me to use USB and that would be groovy but I do not think that has transpired...

I have used LR3.6 in the studio tethered with no problem..it is just using LR on a mac with new firewire gig..

so many variables hope i can work this to soon.