I think #3 is the pick of the litter. The action is coming toward the viewer. Much more dynamic IMO. The red rims and clear face-shield in #2 are cool though.
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Thanks for the comments.....I was surprised by how rusty I had become, not shooting such fast subjects in quite awhile. Something always seems to get in the way of going to the track.
IMO the crop of the middle (black bike) of the new set is far superior to the others. The motion should be coming into the frame, not leaving it. Just my $.02. Good shots all, but if you have cropping room, I'd recrop the shots of the orange and blue bikes.
John :
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
IMO the crop of the middle (black bike) of the new set is far superior to the others. The motion should be coming into the frame, not leaving it. Just my $.02. Good shots all, but if you have cropping room, I'd recrop the shots of the orange and blue bikes.
Getting shots coming at me, was not much of an option, due to viewing position and track layout...but I agree, coming into the frame is far better.
Just as an FYI, none of the shots I posted are cropped.
Getting shots coming at me, was not much of an option, due to viewing position and track layout...but I agree, coming into the frame is far better.
Just as an FYI, none of the shots I posted are cropped.
Ah, then IMO you have an opportunity to improve the impression the images make. See, I wasn't talking about the viewpoint (whether the bike was coming toward you or going away.) I was specifically referring to the composition of the image as it relates to the perceived motion of the subject. If a subject is moving right to left, I think it's more pleasing for there to be more "space" on the left (front) side of the subject and vice versa. Failing that, IMO the subject should be centered. In your latter set of three, all the bikes are actually coming toward you, but only the middle (black bike) implies "action happening." To me, the other two imply "action missed." Cropping to lose the dead space behind the bikes would make them seem more dynamic. The black bike shot feels faster.
John :
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
The first set all of the images are soft. I could see you were trying to pan with the action. That is a tough one to learn. The hit rate can be very low at first. I find that a higher fstop like f10 and panning will yield better shots. The panning blurs the background, the aperture gives you some room for error.
The second set the black bike is really nice. Great framing, and nice and sharp. In general avoid butt shots, unless it is completely on purpose. I really like the last one of the blue bike. It is nice and tight, great action, sharp too. It is just on the wrong corner. If it was the left corner coming into the frame it would be perfect.
The first set all of the images are soft. I could see you were trying to pan with the action. That is a tough one to learn. The hit rate can be very low at first. I find that a higher fstop like f10 and panning will yield better shots. The panning blurs the background, the aperture gives you some room for error.
The second set the black bike is really nice. Great framing, and nice and sharp. In general avoid butt shots, unless it is completely on purpose. I really like the last one of the blue bike. It is nice and tight, great action, sharp too. It is just on the wrong corner. If it was the left corner coming into the frame it would be perfect.
Keep workin it!
Thanks for the feed back.
I wish they had bike racing more often, but they are few and far between, so it makes it hard to shoot, review, return and shoot again.
It was the first time shooting action like this with the 7D, so I played around with the focus points a bit.
I wish I would have had track access, because the good angles were from inside the walls. The track photographers were across the track from me quite often....which meant they had the better views. :cry
Ah, then IMO you have an opportunity to improve the impression the images make. See, I wasn't talking about the viewpoint (whether the bike was coming toward you or going away.) I was specifically referring to the composition of the image as it relates to the perceived motion of the subject. If a subject is moving right to left, I think it's more pleasing for there to be more "space" on the left (front) side of the subject and vice versa. Failing that, IMO the subject should be centered. In your latter set of three, all the bikes are actually coming toward you, but only the middle (black bike) implies "action happening." To me, the other two imply "action missed." Cropping to lose the dead space behind the bikes would make them seem more dynamic. The black bike shot feels faster.
The first set all of the images are soft. I could see you were trying to pan with the action. That is a tough one to learn. The hit rate can be very low at first. I find that a higher fstop like f10 and panning will yield better shots. The panning blurs the background, the aperture gives you some room for error.
The second set the black bike is really nice. Great framing, and nice and sharp. In general avoid butt shots, unless it is completely on purpose. I really like the last one of the blue bike. It is nice and tight, great action, sharp too. It is just on the wrong corner. If it was the left corner coming into the frame it would be perfect.
Keep workin it!
I agree with both replies above. In any kind of racing, or subjects that are moving, you need to leave extra room for your subject to move into (more room in front of subject). If you get the opportunity to shoot there again, get there extra early, and look for one of the race officials, and ask if you could possibly get some better access. You'll probably have to sign a waiver to release them should you end up getting hurt. Just make sure you ask nicely. If you know one of the racers, tell them you are shooting for them, to use on their website. Just make sure your freind knows, so he can back you up should they ask him. I have done this in the past at a couple of local drag racing events, and all I had to do was sign the waiver and was then free to shoot from just about anywhere I wanted.
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Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
Getting shots coming at me, was not much of an option, due to viewing position and track layout...but I agree, coming into the frame is far better.
Just as an FYI, none of the shots I posted are cropped.
Ah, then IMO you have an opportunity to improve the impression the images make. See, I wasn't talking about the viewpoint (whether the bike was coming toward you or going away.) I was specifically referring to the composition of the image as it relates to the perceived motion of the subject. If a subject is moving right to left, I think it's more pleasing for there to be more "space" on the left (front) side of the subject and vice versa. Failing that, IMO the subject should be centered. In your latter set of three, all the bikes are actually coming toward you, but only the middle (black bike) implies "action happening." To me, the other two imply "action missed." Cropping to lose the dead space behind the bikes would make them seem more dynamic. The black bike shot feels faster.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
The second set the black bike is really nice. Great framing, and nice and sharp. In general avoid butt shots, unless it is completely on purpose. I really like the last one of the blue bike. It is nice and tight, great action, sharp too. It is just on the wrong corner. If it was the left corner coming into the frame it would be perfect.
Keep workin it!
Thanks for the feed back.
I wish they had bike racing more often, but they are few and far between, so it makes it hard to shoot, review, return and shoot again.
It was the first time shooting action like this with the 7D, so I played around with the focus points a bit.
I wish I would have had track access, because the good angles were from inside the walls. The track photographers were across the track from me quite often....which meant they had the better views. :cry
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“The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams