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Lens suggestion thread #3758

Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
edited November 19, 2005 in Cameras
Well, Christmas is coming up, and that means gifts of money, which means money for camera accessories! I've been thinking about a new lens for my 20D, but I'm stuck. (Right now I only have the 18-55) I'd like to get a lens with more reach, and with that I'm considering the 70-200 f/4L. The highest price I would be ble to go to would be around $500. I figure I will probably be able to get a used 70-200 f/4L on here for around that price. I don't photograph anything in particular that I need to be closer, but there are times that the 200 end would be of great use.

On the other hand, I also love to do macro. For that I am considering the 100 f/2.8 macro. The only thing is, I'm not sure if that would be quite enough reach. I love the shaprness of it, though.

Another lens I am considering is the 28-135 IS. It seems like an excellent lens for walkaround, but I would much precer to have a single set minimum aperture instead of something like a 3.5-5.6.

- 70-200 f/4L
- 100 f/2.8 macro
- 28-135 IS

Does anybody have any suggestions for any other lenses? My budget would be aroud $500. I've looked at Sigma and Tamron, but none really appeal to me. Please help!
-Steven

http://redbull.smugmug.com

"Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.

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    gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2005
    Those are all popular lenses and you will probably be happy with any one you choose, but here is my .02.

    I have the 70-200 2.8 IS and love it, I know you are looking at the f/4 and there are a lot of people on here that have that and love it also. Something to consider is that it is white, if you are going to want to take street shots with it be aware that you will have a spotlight on you and people are afraid of big white lenses.

    100 f/2.8 Macro - This is one of my favorite lenses. The DOF is great for Macro and it is oh so sharp. It is also a good lens for things non-Macro here is a candid I took at a family party.

    28-135 IS - This is a good walk around lens and the IS can help make up for the 3.5-5.6, but not fully. I am thinking of trading up to an L zoom to replace this but it has served me well.

    Giving a little more info on what exactly you like to shoot may get you some info on aditional lenses because the three you have listed right now are kinda all over the board.
    Nick
    SmugMug Technical Account Manager
    Travel = good. Woo, shooting!
    nickwphoto
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2005
    Thank you for your mini reviews. I like to shoot a variety of things, which is why it's so hard to choose a lens!
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Anyone else with suggestions? Any help is helpful and greatly appreciated.
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    DJ-S1DJ-S1 Registered Users Posts: 2,303 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    I have the 70-200L f4 and it's great. The wide end is good for portraits on a 1.6 crop sensor, and the far end is ~320mm equivalent which is pretty good for sports, airshows, etc. A little short for birds, though. It is a big lens compared to what I'm used to, and you do get noticed when you've got it strapped on. I have people walk up to me all the time and ask about it. rolleyes1.gif

    If you are into faster lenses, consider the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 XR DI for a walkaround lens. It's a very good lens for the price. But on a 1.6x it isn't very wide; you'll have trouble with shots of buildings, etc, and end up putting the kit lens back on for those.

    I haven't used the other lenses mentioned so that's about all the info I have for you. I'll be interested to see what you end up with and what you think of them.
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    I would buy the 70-200 f/4 in a flash. No questions.

    Bang for buck its about the best around !

    Gus
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    ChaseChase Registered Users Posts: 284 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    a sigma 24-70 f2.8 is a fantastic lens. Its sharp and fast. What more could ya want? ne_nau.gifthumb
    www.chase.smugmug.com
    I just press the button and the camera goes CLICK. :dunno
    Canon: gripped 20d and 30d, 10-22 3.5-4.5, 17-55 IS, 50mm f1.8, 70-200L IS, 85mm f1.8, 420ex
    sigma: 10-20 4-5.6 (for sale), 24-70 2.8 (for sale), 120-300 2.8
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Thank you for the replies. One other thing I would like to know is how are the macro capabilities of the Tamron, Sigma, and Canon? I've seen some great macros from the 70-200, but I haven't seen any from the other 2 lenses mentioned. Does anybody have any examples?
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    I would buy the 70-200 f/4 in a flash. No questions.

    Bang for buck its about the best around !

    Gus



    Whoa.




    Gus is right!

    I love my 70-200 f4L, and I think it is one of the best values in L glass around.
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    I've been looking at examples on pbase.com and the results from the 70-200 look fantastic. I think I might go for it. Of course, I still do have some more time to think, but as of now I'm pretty set on the 70-200 f/4.
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Red Bull wrote:
    I've been looking at examples on pbase.com and the results from the 70-200 look fantastic. I think I might go for it. Of course, I still do have some more time to think, but as of now I'm pretty set on the 70-200 f/4.
    Worst case senario is you dont like it & offer it for sale again....there are always plenty of buyers around for this lens.
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    DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Consider the Canon EF 75-300 II USM *don't remember the f-stop.*

    it is the one i am considering and it is considerably cheaper. you can also get that in an IS version.

    just a suggestion from a fellow shopper. :D

    -daniel-
    Daniel Bauer
    smugmug: www.StandOutphoto.smugmug.com

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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    I've seen the 75-300 USM in person and it just doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather just spend the money and get a higher quality lens because I can see myself getting tired of it really quickly. Thank you for the suggestion, though.thumb.gif
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    Old 0zzie farmers saying RB...

    "..its only expensive if you have to buy it twice"
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    PeterGarPeterGar Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited November 12, 2005
    I'm in the same boat with my 300D I got last Christmas. I only own the kit EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 lens. I ocassionally rent the EF 28-70mm f/2.8L lens and love that, but can't afford it.

    For Christmas, I'm hoping my wife buys me the Tamron SP AF28-75 f/2.8 Di LD Aspherical (IF) Macro lens. From the reviews I've read and people I'm chatted with here on Dgrin, this is a great lens for the price. The only problem I've heard is that there are some copies out there that are too soft at certain apertures and/or lengths. I hear Tamron is good about exchanging or calibrating these bad copies. Makes me feel uncomfortable about Tamron's quality control, but they do come with a 6 year warranty.

    Anyhhow, that's my plan. I eventually want a 70-200mm lens too. I have my eyes on the Sigma, but the Canon IS would be ideal.
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    ThusieThusie Registered Users Posts: 1,818 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2005
    Boy I'm very new to the DSLR world, but gonna wade in anyway:): I have the 28-135 IS, I like it.....BUT the lens I find I grab the most often, the one I enjoy the most, the one that I seem to get the best shots with (hand held and I seem to have very unsteady hands at times) is the 70-200 f4. Do I know how to use it? Nope, don't know how to use the camera either:D To my untrained eye, even with the IS on the one, the 70-200 is just topsthumb.gif
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    gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2005
    Red Bull wrote:
    Thank you for the replies. One other thing I would like to know is how are the macro capabilities of the Tamron, Sigma, and Canon? I've seen some great macros from the 70-200, but I haven't seen any from the other 2 lenses mentioned. Does anybody have any examples?
    Just so you know the only TRUE Macro on your list is the 100 f/2.8 Macro. A true Macro will give you a 1:1 ratio, meaning what you are shooting will be at 100% size on the actual camera sensor.

    Here is a Macro taken with the Canon 100 f/2.8.
    32776351-M.jpg

    The 70-200 has a minimum focusing distance of 3.9' so you will not be able to get shots this close with it.
    Nick
    SmugMug Technical Account Manager
    Travel = good. Woo, shooting!
    nickwphoto
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2005
    Yes, I understand everything about the true macro lens. I was only referring to the other lens' minimum focusing range capability. I really want the 100 f/2.8 but I think right now I'd rather have the versatility of the 70-200 f/4L. I need more money!
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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