Watching over him

TonyCooper

Another one from St George Street in St Augustine

bdcolen

Great shot! Lose the title, desaturate a tad. I know you love these titles, Tony, but let these excellent images speak for themselves. Really. The title ties the viewer's brain...:-)

lensmole

Great capture ! Tony,yes the titles seem to be problematic.

MarkR

disagree about desaturating. Great shot, and nice vibrant colors.

TonyCooper

MarkR wrote: »

disagree about desaturating. Great shot, and nice vibrant colors.

I anticipated, in this forum, for someone to want the image in
black and white. To me, the color rendition worked because
black and white sometimes drains the emotion out an image.
That works when we want it to, but not in every image.

I'm glad to see a positive view of the color. The blue of the
shirt and the almost-matching blue of the woodwork was a
happy accident. No Photoshopping was used, and the
Hue and Saturation levels were not tweaked in the slightest.

In this case, the boy was one of two brothers (possibly
twins) and the mother had taken the other boy into the
bathroom. The father stayed outside to watch over the
other brother.

Of course, I knew this and the viewer doesn't.

(I did understand that BD meant "tone down the
saturation", not desaturate.)

bdcolen

TonyCooper wrote: »

I anticipated, in this forum, for someone to want the image in
black and white. To me, the color rendition worked because
black and white sometimes drains the emotion out an image.
That works when we want it to, but not in every image.

I'm glad to see a positive view of the color. The blue of the
shirt and the almost-matching blue of the woodwork was a
happy accident. No Photoshopping was used, and the
Hue and Saturation levels were not tweaked in the slightest.

In this case, the boy was one of two brothers (possibly
twins) and the mother had taken the other boy into the
bathroom. The father stayed outside to watch over the
other brother.

Of course, I knew this and the viewer doesn't.

(I did understand that BD meant "tone down the
saturation", not desaturate.)

Yup. And just a titch.

MarkR

TonyCooper wrote: »

I anticipated, in this forum, for someone to want the image in
black and white. To me, the color rendition worked because
black and white sometimes drains the emotion out an image.
That works when we want it to, but not in every image.

I'm glad to see a positive view of the color. The blue of the
shirt and the almost-matching blue of the woodwork was a
happy accident. No Photoshopping was used, and the
Hue and Saturation levels were not tweaked in the slightest.

In this case, the boy was one of two brothers (possibly
twins) and the mother had taken the other boy into the
bathroom. The father stayed outside to watch over the
other brother.

Of course, I knew this and the viewer doesn't.

(I did understand that BD meant "tone down the
saturation", not desaturate.)

Bad wording on my part. I understood the toning down the saturation part. But I still like it as is. Desaturating it-- darn it! -- toning down the saturation would make it a less friendly, and more ominous picture, IMHO.

jhefti

I Like B&W, though don't shoot it often. I'm curious however, how one can claim to do documentary photography in B&W since this is not how we see the world.

I really like this shot.

black mamba

jhefti wrote: »

I Like B&W, though don't shoot it often,. I'm curious however, how one can claim to do documentary photography in B&W since this is not how we see the world?

I really like this shot.

BRAVO!!clap

I have the very same feelings expressed above. However, as a long-time observer and an occasional contributor to this forum, I suffer no illusions as to my chances of winning any " discussions " about such matters.

Pertinent to this shot, I wouldn't tone down the saturation in any regard. Tony has told us that he didn't influence the saturation at all. I can't address the guy's blue shirt as I wasn't there. But I can tell you unequivocally that all the other colors are absolutely correct....I pass by this very scene quite often.

For those of you who, on one hand, demand unforgiving accuracy in presenting documentary work, to turn around and suggest altering the colors....or even going to B&W....to produce a picture that more closely conforms to your own criteria is being hypocritical.

Tom

jhefti

black mamba wrote: »

For those of you who, on one hand, demand unforgiving accuracy in presenting documentary work, to turn around and suggest altering the colors....or even going to B&W....to produce a picture that more closely conforms to your own criteria is being hypocritical.
Tom

Since a camera does not ever reproduce what the eye sees, especially in terms of color, contrast and dynamic range, it makes sense to allow altering colors and exposures in a photo to more closely approximate what the eye and mind of the photographer saw. In addition, one can further edit to highlight some particular aspect(s) of a given shot (which is of course what cropping does).

But it seems to me that shooting or rendering in B&W is really trying to approximate photojournalism of yesteryear, rather than approximating a current subject or event as seen by the photojournalist. Just sayin...