Little League

Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
edited June 18, 2012 in Sports
These are a few from a little league game late in the afternoon this past weekend (6/3/12), just before they turned the field lights on. All except the last one was shot through the fence to the left of home plate, next to the home team's dugout. The last two were shot from the press box.

#1 The wind up
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#2
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#3 My first shot capturing the ball just after leaving the pitchers hand!
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#4 Putting everything into it
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#5 Then the rain came!
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#6 This kid resembles Ron Howard when he was younger!
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Thanks for taking a look. As always, C&C is greatly appreciated.

GaryB
GaryB
“The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams

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  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2012
    I've shot a good amount of little league. These are very nice. Looks like you knelt or sat to get down on the player's level, and that is the most important thing. A few comments about the pitcher photos - #3 looks like a good exposure, the rest look underexposed a bit. If the light is consistent, shoot manual. Sometimes we can't move around enough, but if you can I would suggest watching out for players in the bg making it look like your pitcher has 3 or 4 legs. In any case, open up that aperture all the way to maximize background blur. I like what the 2nd baseman is adding to the composition in #1, but I would crop 2 and 3 to be portraits of just the pitcher, like 4.
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2012
    I've shot a good amount of little league. These are very nice. Looks like you knelt or sat to get down on the player's level, and that is the most important thing. A few comments about the pitcher photos - #3 looks like a good exposure, the rest look underexposed a bit. If the light is consistent, shoot manual. Sometimes we can't move around enough, but if you can I would suggest watching out for players in the bg making it look like your pitcher has 3 or 4 legs. In any case, open up that aperture all the way to maximize background blur. I like what the 2nd baseman is adding to the composition in #1, but I would crop 2 and 3 to be portraits of just the pitcher, like 4.

    Thanks for the C&C Jack! I will try cropping those as suggested, and give it a shot at cloaning out the extra legs. Only place to get low at this field is right by the dugouts because of the advertising banners. Every place else you have to shoot high, and the only places you don't have to shoot through the fence is from the press box, or from the hill by the outfield fence. I will ask the coaches if it will be OK to shoot some from the dugout next time I'm there.

    GaryB
    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2012
    I recropped the ones from landscape to portrait as mentioned and tried my hand at cloaning out the extra legs, and bumped the exposure up a tad. Do these look any better?

    #7
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    #8
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    #9
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    GaryB
    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • johngjohng Registered Users Posts: 1,658 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2012
    One other point - backgrounds, backgrounds, backgrounds. Nothing ruins shots in youth sports like bad backgrounds. The car behind the pitcher is terribly distracting. It's in the worst possible spot relative to your position. Since you can't move the vehicle you need to do other things:
    1) change shooting position.
    2) create shallower DOF

    When you're forced to shoot from outside a fence, #1 can be tough. Unfortunately a big part of quality sports shooting is location. For #2, you need to use longer focal lengths and wider apertures. In reality for a shot like this though, you need to combine the two. With such a bad background, I might suggest getting shots of the pitcher more head-on from behind the plate. You'll have greater separation of pitcher from background. You could have done everything perfectly with these pitcher shots but that car ruins them.
  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2012
    johng wrote: »
    One other point - backgrounds, backgrounds, backgrounds. Nothing ruins shots in youth sports like bad backgrounds. The car behind the pitcher is terribly distracting. It's in the worst possible spot relative to your position. Since you can't move the vehicle you need to do other things:
    1) change shooting position.
    2) create shallower DOF

    When you're forced to shoot from outside a fence, #1 can be tough. Unfortunately a big part of quality sports shooting is location. For #2, you need to use longer focal lengths and wider apertures. In reality for a shot like this though, you need to combine the two. With such a bad background, I might suggest getting shots of the pitcher more head-on from behind the plate. You'll have greater separation of pitcher from background. You could have done everything perfectly with these pitcher shots but that car ruins them.

    Points taken on backgrounds John. I have a huge problem with backgrounds at this field. Where the cars are in these shots, is a street and cars park along there. If I shoot from behind home plate, I'm still getting cars in the background. If I move to a spot along the firstbase line, I get cars from the parking lot. If I shoot from the thirdbase line then I get a bunch of differnet colored advertising banners. The only way I have found to eliminate the distracting backgrounds is to shoot from the pressbox, which I don't care to do, but have from time to time.

    The season will be over after this weekend, and the All-Star games start next month. By then I'm hoping to have a 70-200 f2.8 and that should help me blur out those distracting backgrounds. Untill then, I guess I'm going to have to spend a bunch of time cloaning out those cars.

    Thanks again John for the tips! I really appreciate it!

    GaryB
    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2012
    BroPhoto wrote: »
    I recropped the ones from landscape to portrait as mentioned and tried my hand at cloaning out the extra legs, and bumped the exposure up a tad. Do these look any better?

    See now THESE look like posters. Or baseball cards. thumb.gif

    The background critique is valid, but sometimes there's just nothing you can do and you are just surrounded by unattractive stuff. The angle on the pitcher is great, so if there were cars and stuff in all directions, then I'd say you did well.
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2012
    See now THESE look like posters. Or baseball cards. thumb.gif

    The background critique is valid, but sometimes there's just nothing you can do and you are just surrounded by unattractive stuff. The angle on the pitcher is great, so if there were cars and stuff in all directions, then I'd say you did well.

    Thanks for the comment! It's the people of Dgrin who offer up tips and suggestions that are helping me a lot! It's when no one responds to a thread that makes me wonder where I went wrong, what could be done to make it better, or if it is just OK. At the present time I am doing this as a hobby, but eventually would like to do this more professionally, so I still have some time to refine my skills. Up untill now my favorite stuff to shoot was auto racing, mainly drag racing, but have been exploring other areas as well.

    GaryB
    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2012
    I tried my hand at cropping out the car and the yellow cover over the top of the fense. Does this look any better?

    I was just contacted a few minutes ago and it looks like I will be going to Williamsport, to the field where the little league world series is played, tomorrow to shoot two of the local teams that will be playing there. If that place is as I was told, I should be able to get some good shots, as I have never been to this field.

    Anyway, what are your opinions on this edit?

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    Thanks for any and all C&C, as this is helping me see my mistakes!

    GaryB
    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • jheftijhefti Registered Users Posts: 734 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2012
    To my photographer's eye, the BG looks very cloned--especially the grass to the upper right. Not sure if a parent would notice or care though...

    In my limited experience with altering backgrounds, it's much harder to get a good result when you are cloning from a homogeneous region such as grass or blue sky; there are always small differences that show up as swaths in the shot. I have found it much easier to clone highly variable parts, like the trees at the top of this pic. However, I am by no means a PS content alteration expert--not my thing--so take this for what it's worth...
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited June 11, 2012
    BroPhoto wrote: »
    I tried my hand at cropping out the car and the yellow cover over the top of the fense. Does this look any better?

    No, I think that will be obvious to anybody that it has been altered.

    I think the only thing you could do would be to go back to the field on a day when nobody is there and the weather and time of day are the same, and take a shot of the empty pitchers mound, then paste the player on top of that. Of course, this would only be worth it if he is your own child, or if the parents commissioned the photo.
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • studio7studio7 Registered Users Posts: 11 Big grins
    edited June 12, 2012
    One of my favorite positions for shooting pitchers is directly behind the catcher (outside the fence during warmup). I shoot a d700 (8 fps) and just hold the shutter release down from start of pitch to when the catcher gets the ball. Makes a wonderful series and if the pitcher can throw straight you will see the ball coming all the way in to you.
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  • Gary752Gary752 Registered Users Posts: 934 Major grins
    edited June 15, 2012
    studio7 wrote: »
    One of my favorite positions for shooting pitchers is directly behind the catcher (outside the fence during warmup). I shoot a d700 (8 fps) and just hold the shutter release down from start of pitch to when the catcher gets the ball. Makes a wonderful series and if the pitcher can throw straight you will see the ball coming all the way in to you.

    That is one loocation that is impoosible to shoot from at this field. They have a dark green screen that covers the entire backstop as seen in the photo below. I think they installed that to block the sun somewhat when it is setting, as this is facing towards the west, and games start late afternoon, and run into the evening when they need to turn the field lights on.

    GaryB

    BTW...This team was undefeated in tournament play, and had only one loss in regular season play!
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    GaryB
    “The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it!” - Ansel Adams
  • zSCOTTzzSCOTTz Registered Users Posts: 169 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2012
    BroPhoto wrote: »
    That is one loocation that is impoosible to shoot from at this field. They have a dark green screen that covers the entire backstop as seen in the photo below. I think they installed that to block the sun somewhat when it is setting, as this is facing towards the west, and games start late afternoon, and run into the evening when they need to turn the field lights on.

    GaryB

    BTW...This team was undefeated in tournament play, and had only one loss in regular season play!
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    In a situation like that, during warm ups, ask the ump if you can go out and take some shots of the pitcher from behind the catcher, I stand off to the side a tad in case the catcher misses the ball. I have never had an ump tell me no to this request, even for High School games. Ive only had one ball come straight at me, little league fast pitch softball game, I got the shots, and got out of the way without getting hit lol.
  • zSCOTTzzSCOTTz Registered Users Posts: 169 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2012
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  • jmp2204jmp2204 Registered Users Posts: 197 Major grins
    edited June 18, 2012
    Either way it looks better
    BroPhoto wrote: »
    I tried my hand at cropping out the car and the yellow cover over the top of the fense. Does this look any better?

    I was just contacted a few minutes ago and it looks like I will be going to Williamsport, to the field where the little league world series is played, tomorrow to shoot two of the local teams that will be playing there. If that place is as I was told, I should be able to get some good shots, as I have never been to this field.

    Anyway, what are your opinions on this edit?

    060312-13a-L.jpg

    Thanks for any and all C&C, as this is helping me see my mistakes!

    GaryB
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