Ghosts or no ghosts ?

jgoetz4

Good Evening Folks,
Way back in 2003, I stayed at a place called the St Michaels Manor Bed & Breakfast, in St Mary's County, MD, with my wife. On the property is an old cemetery that's about 200' or so from the house. Buried in the cemetery is the original owner and builder of the house. At the time, I was using a Sony Mavica (floppy disc media :rofl) and the max resolution was something like 1024 x 768. I started to take a few shots around the graveyard and didn't notice anything unusual until I looked at those pictures a few days later. The 2 shots attached were taken approximately 1 min apart. If you look at the first image, you'll see there is nothing in the corner where the gate is, except an empty circle. The 2nd shot shows what appears to be 2 people inside the cemetery standing in the corner under the arrows. The pictures were not photoshopped. I found these earlier tonight while looking for another picture that's related to my Night Shift image. Judge for yourself, but nothing was standing there when those pictures were taken. My wife was next to me the entire time. Thanks for looking :thumb
Have a good night
Jim...

jgoetz4

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#2...

VayCayMom

I love this subject, I watch all the junk tv shows. I am interested in the comments from this !

dbveto

Hard to really say anything the two shots are at different angles, you cannot see the spot that looks like people in the first shot.

Earache

Science has discovered that our brains are hardwired for pattern recognition of anthropomorphic shapes.......It's adaptive.
I vote no ghost - just human shapes.
What's a "floppy disk" ? 1.44 MB ...ha ha ha haha !

hamster

Well, that creeped me right the heck out!

johnloguk

Interesting exercise in how people see what they want to see. The two shots are from slightly different angles, so the area where the "ghosts" are in the 2nd pic isn't actually in the top pic anyway to compare with. So they could have been people just hanging around in the trees unseen by you at the time. When I'm out taking photos I often find things in the shot that I didn't see at the time, it's how our minds work when we're literally focused on something else. One thing for certain, there aren't such things as ghosts anyway, so whatever the shapes are they aren't ghosts

Yaflyyadie

If they are ghosts you can say; welcome, is it there something I can do for you?.
If they are human living forms, BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting topic.
Yafly.

jgoetz4

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Good Afternoon Folks,
Thanks for all the comments First of all, you can clearly see there is nothing standing in the 1st pic. The 2nd shot was taken to the right of the 1st shot, outside the fence. If you look close, you can see whatever is there is inside the fence. I have attached a drawing that shows how the pics were taken. Again, thanks for looking
Have a good day
Jim...

Hackbone

Soon to be a coming " Attraction".

jgoetz4

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johnloguk wrote: »

Interesting exercise in how people see what they want to see. The two shots are from slightly different angles, so the area where the "ghosts" are in the 2nd pic isn't actually in the top pic anyway to compare with. So they could have been people just hanging around in the trees unseen by you at the time. When I'm out taking photos I often find things in the shot that I didn't see at the time, it's how our minds work when we're literally focused on something else. One thing for certain, there aren't such things as ghosts anyway, so whatever the shapes are they aren't ghosts

Good Evening John,
Thanks for your comments If you look carefully at the drawing I attached above, you'll see exactly how the shots were taken. When you look at where the 2nd shot was taken from, looking into the corner that has the black circle in it in the 1st shot, you should see something there. Yes, the angle is different, but it shows the same corner. As for not believing in ghosts, I felt the same way for years. It wasn't until I actually saw one in my 123 yr old PA house a few months ago that changed my mind. Until you actually see one, or feel the presence of one, yes, you will be a non believer. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it can't or doesn't exist. Again, thanks for looking
Have a good night

jgoetz4

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Rather then start another thread, I thought I would post this shot taken 3 yrs ago in a cemetery. If you look straight at the center tree, you'll see a bluish-green orb. It's not a reflection, and it was not PSed. Thanks for looking
Have a good night
Jim...

jgoetz4

Ghosts or no ghosts ?
One more shot taken by a friend of mine 2 yrs ago in an old barn in Southern MD. The barn was supposedly used over 150 yrs ago to hang people that tried to escape. If you look at the picture, you'll see a bunch of orbs as well as what looks like faint figures hanging from the rafters. Thanks for looking
Have a good night
Jim...

jgoetz4

jgoetz4 wrote: »

One more shot taken by a friend of mine 2 yrs ago in an old barn in Southern MD. The barn was supposedly used over 150 yrs ago to hang people that tried to escape. If you look at the picture, you'll see a bunch of orbs as well as what looks like faint figures hanging from the rafters. Thanks for looking
Have a good night
Jim...

By the way, I do have full size pics of both images if anyone would like to see them...

Bilsen

You get some very interesting images Mr. Goetz.

phatspaz

I find stuff like that fascinating! Thanks for posting..

jgoetz4

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JohnGalt_ny wrote: »

You get some very interesting images Mr. Goetz.

Good Evening Mr. Galt,
Please call me Jim. Thanks for your comment Over the years, I've taken a few interesting pictures. I am working on setting up my old Sony camcorder with the original unmodified Night Shot and shoot some infrared video in my house at night. Curiosity has the best of me Thanks again
Have a good night
Jim...

jgoetz4

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phatspaz wrote: »

I find stuff like that fascinating! Thanks for posting..

Good Evening Phatspaz,
Agree. Stuff like this is interesting, regardless of whether or not there is a good explanation. People will see different things, and in some cases, will see nothing. Thanks for your comments
Have a good night
Jim...

David_S85

Interesting images, Jim.

I've always wanted to try some wide spectrum shooting, still or video. My cats often see something travel up and down our stairs inside the house (100 years old this year). They focus in at what would be human eye level walking through the room and are completely freaked out when they experience this, complete with those chirpy chattering noises cats make when they are out of their comfort zone. So far we've had four separate cats over the years "see" the same thing and react the same way on many occasions. I have only heard foot steps, but seen nothing. Maybe I'm not curious enough to set up an experiment.

williaes

I do alot of fire investigations on buildings and homes. I get those orbs in almost every photo taken from inside a burned out building. Not sure what it is but there is something in the air. I would venture to say that it could be explained... that is the orb lookng things. As for the rest of your shots I have no idea but it is very interesting to look at.

David_S85

Orbs are usually out-of-focus airborne dust particles illuminated from near direct on-camera flash, or from lighting somewhere behind the lens. If you get illuminated orbs without such lighting, then you have something unusual.

jgoetz4

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David_S85 wrote: »

Interesting images, Jim.

I've always wanted to try some wide spectrum shooting, still or video. My cats often see something travel up and down our stairs inside the house (100 years old this year). They focus in at what would be human eye level walking through the room and are completely freaked out when they experience this, complete with those chirpy chattering noises cats make when they are out of their comfort zone. So far we've had four separate cats over the years "see" the same thing and react the same way on many occasions. I have only heard foot steps, but seen nothing. Maybe I'm not curious enough to set up an experiment.

Good Evening David,
Thanks for joining the discussion You may be on to something regarding your cats' ability to see something that we can't. I have a Puggle, part Pug and part Beagle. At times, she'll lift her head from the floor in the living room and appear to watch something or someone in the kitchen, turning her head trying to get a better view. She has done this a few times since we have been in the house, and doesn't appear to be afraid of whatever is or isn't there. Usually after a few minutes, she'll put her head back down again. When my son was little, maybe 2 or 3, he would sit on my lap and stare in to the kitchen (different house) and laugh out loud for no reason. It was as if someone was making funny faces. He was never scared and never cried. That was interesting. Thanks for your comments
Have a good night
Jim...

jgoetz4

Ghosts or no ghosts ?

williaes wrote: »

I do alot of fire investigations on buildings and homes. I get those orbs in almost every photo taken from inside a burned out building. Not sure what it is but there is something in the air. I would venture to say that it could be explained... that is the orb lookng things. As for the rest of your shots I have no idea but it is very interesting to look at.

Good Evening Williaes,
Thanks for your comments Like David already explained, most of the so called orbs are dust spots/balls close to the camera lens, and a lot of them are explainable in the Spirits pic I posted earlier. However, the faint images of something in the rafters is a little more complicated to explain. Thanks again
Have a good night
Jim...

Dogdots

Geez Jim you'd never shown me those 2 shots before .. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool tho too I find this stuff so interesting, but you know that. Have you ever gone back to that place and photographed the same area of the cemetery again?

I have goosebumps ...

anonymouscuban

If by ghosts you mean twigs, branches and shadows, then YES, I see them.

Sam

Definitely not ghosts. I have watched a few of the ghost hunter shows and it appears manditory that ghosts only come out in the dark. Not sure why ghosts are afraid of the light, but you never see them looking for ghosts during daylight hours.

In order to prove ghosts you need fuzzy, blurred distorted blobs and investigators jumping and shouting, "did you see that?" or "did you hear that?" or "something just touched me".

TV wouldn't lie.

Sam

David_S85

What Sam says, and they then "go green" with those extra wavelength video cams. Magnetometers also seem to help, as well as digital remote thermometers. All no doubt available on Amazon. You could ask the ghost to roll the flashlight across the floor too. Always good for the shrieks and goose bump factor.

Gotham

This is the "people" forum. Do ghosts count as people?

David_S85

Gotham wrote: »

This is the "people" forum. Do ghosts count as people?

Yes, as we don't yet have a spirits and ghosts forum.

canoesailor

jgoetz4 wrote: »

#2...

Looking at the hoodie on the left, it looks like a young couple who were "enjoying each other" on a grave. They have just realised there's a photographer about and stood up.