Password protected galleries and URLs

arjunrcarjunrc Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
edited July 11, 2012 in SmugMug Support
Hi, here is my situation:
I've created a private gallery. Let's call it myprivate. I want an easy to share URL I can pass on to family and friends. I am facing the following issues:

a) I am being forced to pre-fix a category. Example, I have to do arjunrc.smugmug.com/personal/myprivate instead of just a nicer virtual URL of arjunrc.smugmug.com/myprivate. Any way I can have a URL like the latter? Many of the visitors for this gallery do not bookmark - they just type it in by memory

b) Worse, it looks like even if I convince them to enter (and remember) arjunrc.smugmug.com/personal/myprivate it doesn't work! They need to add my album id etc - which is a garble of numbers. Its impossible for them to remember this and bookmarking is the only option

So what options do I have to keep the gallery password protected, and yet, offer a easy to remember (not bookmark) URL?

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  • jhofkerjhofker Registered Users Posts: 136 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2012
    Have you considered using an Event instead? Although I don't think I'd ever depend on someone to remember a URL...that's the whole point of bookmarks/favorites. :-)
  • arjunrcarjunrc Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2012
    jhofker, I am currently a paid power user (not pro) - I don't think its available to power users. I also don't think by the description that is what I need.
    Yes, I know if you bookmark you don't need to remember, but I know the people who visit never bookmark based on past experience.

    In general, I find the smugmug approach of enforcing keys & album ids to solve the issue of galleries moving later to not be efficient - I may be wrong as I am new to smugmug. I would have thought a better approach is simply to create virtual URLs that map to real URLs irrespective of where they move (arjunrc.smugmug.com/landscapes maps to my landscapes album irrespective of where I move it in the future). This of course mandates unique gallery names. Maybe smugmug has a different design philosophy here and I am just a newbie getting used to the smugmug world :-).
  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,399 moderator
    edited July 10, 2012
  • arjunrcarjunrc Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2012
    Thanks Denise. thats quite some javascript jugglery there :-)
    Yes, I will have to resort to that hack, it seems. Thank you.
    The only issue is that this forces me to list my private & unlisted gallery URLs for everyone to see if they do a view->source, which defeats the purpose of an unlisted gallery, but if thats the only way, thats the only way!
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2012
    arjunrc wrote: »
    Hi, here is my situation:
    I've created a private gallery. Let's call it myprivate. I want an easy to share URL I can pass on to family and friends. I am facing the following issues:

    a) I am being forced to pre-fix a category. Example, I have to do arjunrc.smugmug.com/personal/myprivate instead of just a nicer virtual URL of arjunrc.smugmug.com/myprivate. Any way I can have a URL like the latter? Many of the visitors for this gallery do not bookmark - they just type it in by memory

    b) Worse, it looks like even if I convince them to enter (and remember) arjunrc.smugmug.com/personal/myprivate it doesn't work! They need to add my album id etc - which is a garble of numbers. Its impossible for them to remember this and bookmarking is the only option

    So what options do I have to keep the gallery password protected, and yet, offer a easy to remember (not bookmark) URL?
    Unlisted URLs can be created with no category in them like this:

    http://jfriend.smugmug.com/gallery/9183002_77rfNW

    You take the original URL:

    http://jfriend.smugmug.com/Other2/Galley-Name-Parsing-Test/9183002_77rfNW#!i=613143783&k=oWV5A

    and grab the part in red and add it to the end of this (obviously, you put in your own domain):

    http://jfriend.smugmug.com/gallery/9183002_77rfNW

    to make a new URL that does not have the category in it.
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  • arjunrcarjunrc Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2012
    Ah ok, I see. So the main URL locator is that number set. Okay,
    so now I am down to:
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/myprivate/2342423_212xx

    That's an improvement. I think I'll now just add an alias mapping to my DNS manager to map myprivate to myprivate/2342423_212xx. Then I'll be down to just inspire.roychowdhury.org/myprivate. Fortunately, I only have one private gallery for which I am fretting so much about and won't bother with work arounds for other private galleries.

    Technically speaking, I still think this is not the right way to implement URL virtualization by smugmug, but hey, that's just my opinion.

    Thank you.
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2012
    arjunrc wrote: »
    Ah ok, I see. So the main URL locator is that number set. Okay,
    so now I am down to:
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/myprivate/2342423_212xx

    That's an improvement. I think I'll now just add an alias mapping to my DNS manager to map myprivate to myprivate/2342423_212xx. Then I'll be down to just inspire.roychowdhury.org/myprivate. Fortunately, I only have one private gallery for which I am fretting so much about and won't bother with work arounds for other private galleries.

    Technically speaking, I still think this is not the right way to implement URL virtualization by smugmug, but hey, that's just my opinion.

    Thank you.
    At the smugmug level, it should be:

    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/gallery/2342423_212xx

    not

    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/myprivate/2342423_212xx

    It is the "gallery" keyword that tells it to look just for the gallery number.
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  • arjunrcarjunrc Registered Users Posts: 159 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2012
    John, that does not seem to be the case here. (i.e. gallery keyword)
    Based on what I read about how/why Smugmug introduced this album id/key pair in the URL, it is by itself a sufficient mechanism to locate the gallery irrespective of the hierarchy specified in the URL. That seems to be consistent with what I am seeing.

    All of these links redirect to the same pblogtest gallery, for example

    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/Other/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (real URL)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (without category just gallery name)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/gallery/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (with gallery keyword and no category)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/gobbledegook/yepyepmartiens/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (complete gobbledegook hierarchy)
  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2012
    arjunrc wrote: »
    John, that does not seem to be the case here. (i.e. gallery keyword)
    Based on what I read about how/why Smugmug introduced this album id/key pair in the URL, it is by itself a sufficient mechanism to locate the gallery irrespective of the hierarchy specified in the URL. That seems to be consistent with what I am seeing.

    All of these links redirect to the same pblogtest gallery, for example

    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/Other/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (real URL)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (without category just gallery name)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/gallery/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (with gallery keyword and no category)
    http://inspire.roychowdhury.org/gobbledegook/yepyepmartiens/pblogtest/24110482_8SpPJH (complete gobbledegook hierarchy)
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