Swim At Your Own Risk.....

black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
edited August 6, 2012 in Landscapes
....just kidding, of course. This hydra-thermal feature is located at the Mammoth Springs area in Yellowstone. Jump into this blue pool and get scalded to death immediately. Then the high acid content will dispose of your bones in short order. I doubt very seriously that you could make it to the pool anyway....you'd probably fall through the thin earth crust on your way there.



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  • Hikin' MikeHikin' Mike Registered Users Posts: 5,467 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    Love the colors of the rocks. Looks like I see a slight blue-cast? The clouds look too blue.
  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    Love the colors of the rocks. Looks like I see a slight blue-cast? The clouds look too blue.

    Thanks for looking in, Mike. These clouds were very thin and wispy....the blue sky behind them just ate them up.

    Tom
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  • JCJC Registered Users Posts: 768 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    Thanks for looking in, Mike. These clouds were very thin and wispy....the blue sky behind them just ate them up.

    Tom

    I agree with Mike, your white balance is off. Mammoth hot springs is one of the places you really need to do a custom white balance off a gray card, to truly reproduce the colors. Scenes there never average out to middle gray, and what you might think in hindsight is white trying to pick a white balance in post, often times isn't white in reality.
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    kolibri wrote: »
    I agree with Mike, your white balance is off. Mammoth hot springs is one of the places you really need to do a custom white balance off a gray card, to truly reproduce the colors. Scenes there never average out to middle gray, and what you might think in hindsight is white trying to pick a white balance in post, often times isn't white in reality.

    I appreciate the visit and thanks for taking the time to comment.

    Tom
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  • JCJC Registered Users Posts: 768 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    I appreciate the visit and thanks for taking the time to comment.

    Tom

    But it doesn't sound like you agree with the color balance?

    Did you shoot raw?
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    kolibri wrote: »
    But it doesn't sound like you agree with the color balance?

    Did you shoot raw?

    This picture was from a series that was shot in Jpeg fine. A good bit of my work out there was shot in raw.

    There may be a slight blue prejudice to the sky. The white balance could be off a little there and the effect of the circular polarizer may also be coming into play. The truth is, it doesn't bother me as much as it appears to bother you. Since you've been there, you can attest to the fact that the subject of this shot...the hydra-thermal feature...has been very accurately recorded, both in color and substance. I personally perform very little in the way of PP manipulation. I've got a lot more to do than sit in front of a computer, trying to squeeze out the last bit of, whatever, that keeps the shot from being perfect. This rendering gives the viewer a good look at an extremely interesting geological feature and that's all I'm after.

    I was sincere in thanking you for taking the time to comment.

    Tom
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  • JCJC Registered Users Posts: 768 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    This picture was from a series that was shot in Jpeg fine. A good bit of my work out there was shot in raw.

    There may be a slight blue prejudice to the sky. The white balance could be off a little there and the effect of the circular polarizer may also be coming into play. The truth is, it doesn't bother me as much as it appears to bother you....

    I was sincere in thanking you for taking the time to comment.

    Tom


    Sorry, I do tend to assume that other people post on dgrin for the same reason I do, to get the kind of detailed look at my images that I don't get from just posting them on facebook, or from my boyfriend. So one last comment, and then I'll shut up.
    . Since you've been there, you can attest to the fact that the subject of this shot...the hydra-thermal feature...has been very accurately recorded, both in color and substance.... This rendering gives the viewer a good look at an extremely interesting geological feature and that's all I'm after.

    Tom


    The sinter terrace and pool <b> aren't </b> accurately recorded. Your camera is trying to average out the scene to a neutral tone for the auto white balance, but it's biased by the large amount of nominally grey terrace in front. So the camera tries to make that an average grey color. The sinter terraces aren't truly a neutral gray though, they weather to a slightly warm tone. The camera is correcting for that, and making the whole image too cool. We have an intuitive sense for what the sky should look like, even if they are whispy little clouds, so Mike can see by the clouds that the color balance if off. If it's off in the sky, though, it's off throughout the image.

    It's making the sinter terraces look blue gray, instead of the shades of warm gray, taupe and cream that they truly are, it's hampering your attempt to render the scene faithfully.
    I've got a lot more to do than sit in front of a computer, trying to squeeze out the last bit of, whatever, that keeps the shot from being perfect. This rendering gives the viewer a good look at an extremely interesting geological feature and that's all I'm after.

    Tom

    If you have shots from here in RAW, and if you shot on auto white balance, just going into your raw converter and changing the white balance from 'as shot' to 'sunny' or 'cloudy' (or adjusting the color temperature to midway between those two), might be enough to recover the true colors.

    I'll shut up now.
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  • Hikin' MikeHikin' Mike Registered Users Posts: 5,467 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    kolibri wrote: »
    Sorry, I do tend to assume that other people post on dgrin for the same reason I do, to get the kind of detailed look at my images that I don't get from just posting them on facebook, or from my boyfriend. So one last comment, and then I'll shut up.




    The sinter terrace and pool <b> aren't </b> accurately recorded. Your camera is trying to average out the scene to a neutral tone for the auto white balance, but it's biased by the large amount of nominally grey terrace in front. So the camera tries to make that an average grey color. The sinter terraces aren't truly a neutral gray though, they weather to a slightly warm tone. The camera is correcting for that, and making the whole image too cool. We have an intuitive sense for what the sky should look like, even if they are whispy little clouds, so Mike can see by the clouds that the color balance if off. If it's off in the sky, though, it's off throughout the image.

    It's making the sinter terraces look blue gray, instead of the shades of warm gray, taupe and cream that they truly are, it's hampering your attempt to render the scene faithfully.



    If you have shots from here in RAW, and if you shot on auto white balance, just going into your raw converter and changing the white balance from 'as shot' to 'sunny' or 'cloudy' (or adjusting the color temperature to midway between those two), might be enough to recover the true colors.

    I'll shut up now.

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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2012
    kolibri wrote: »
    Sorry, I do tend to assume that other people post on dgrin for the same reason I do, to get the kind of detailed look at my images that I don't get from just posting them on facebook, or from my boyfriend. So one last comment, and then I'll shut up.




    The sinter terrace and pool aren't accurately recorded. Your camera is trying to average out the scene to a neutral tone for the auto white balance, but it's biased by the large amount of nominally grey terrace in front. So the camera tries to make that an average grey color. The sinter terraces aren't truly a neutral gray though, they weather to a slightly warm tone. The camera is correcting for that, and making the whole image too cool. We have an intuitive sense for what the sky should look like, even if they are whispy little clouds, so Mike can see by the clouds that the color balance if off. If it's off in the sky, though, it's off throughout the image.

    It's making the sinter terraces look blue gray, instead of the shades of warm gray, taupe and cream that they truly are, it's hampering your attempt to render the scene faithfully.



    If you have shots from here in RAW, and if you shot on auto white balance, just going into your raw converter and changing the white balance from 'as shot' to 'sunny' or 'cloudy' (or adjusting the color temperature to midway between those two), might be enough to recover the true colors.

    I'll shut up now.

    Funny how your remembrance of the subtle color palettes shown in this place differ so much from mine. But that's OK....folks see things differently.

    Somehow, though, I seriously doubt that the term " I'll shut up now " accurately defines any of your normal reactions.
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited August 6, 2012
    The colors may not be 100% accurate, but this is a really nice image regardless, Tom. Coincidentally, I shot the same scene around the same time, but in the early morning. I shot it in raw and my image is so flat and drab that I can't coax anywhere near the colors out of it that you have here. I'm envious!
  • jirojiro Registered Users Posts: 1,865 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    This picture was from a series that was shot in Jpeg fine. A good bit of my work out there was shot in raw.

    There may be a slight blue prejudice to the sky. The white balance could be off a little there and the effect of the circular polarizer may also be coming into play.

    Tom

    Working with CPL's, I could say that the saturated blue color of the sky here can be attributed to the effect of the CPL. For me, the image looks pretty fine. Of course, if you want to nitpick and make the shot as "accurate" as possible it can always be done. Knowing Tom (Black Mamba), I think he already stated that he'd rather spend most of his time away from the computer rather than spend much time tweaking his shots. When I saw this photograph without reading the comments, I already knew by previous knowledge that this shot was taken with a CPL taking my hint from the blue sky. I'd say "Good job, my friend." thumb.gif:D
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    kdog wrote: »
    The colors may not be 100% accurate, but this is a really nice image regardless, Tom. Coincidentally, I shot the same scene around the same time, but in the early morning. I shot it in raw and my image is so flat and drab that I can't coax anywhere near the colors out of it that you have here. I'm envious!

    Many thanks for the kind words, Joel. I initially shot some of the geyser area activities very early in the day. Unfortunately, like yourself, I wasn't happy with the flat and drab results. From then on I waited for the sun to get high....often not the thing to do....and the array of colors would really pop. The polarizer could easily handle all the reflections bouncing around.

    Take care,

    Tom
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    jiro wrote: »
    Working with CPL's, I could say that the saturated blue color of the sky here can be attributed to the effect of the CPL. For me, the image looks pretty fine. Of course, if you want to nitpick and make the shot as "accurate" as possible it can always be done. Knowing Tom (Black Mamba), I think he already stated that he'd rather spend most of his time away from the computer rather than spend much time tweaking his shots. When I saw this photograph without reading the comments, I already knew by previous knowledge that this shot was taken with a CPL taking my hint from the blue sky. I'd say "Good job, my friend." thumb.gif:D

    Thank you, my friend. I have always valued your support and encouragement. I can tell you honestly that the Yellowstone Park provides photo ops as varied and exciting as any I've ever seen.
    I sincerely hope that you'll get to experience it yourself one day.

    Thanks again and keep the good stuff flowing...I'm really enjoying it,

    Tom
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  • DaddyODaddyO Registered Users Posts: 4,466 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    Falling through doesn't sound like the least bit of fun Tom :D You make it sound so very unpleasant lol3.gif
    when it appears to be a really pleasant spot and neatly imaged at that thumb.gif

    I been in up in the woods with near zero net connection... or so slow it might as well not even be one...hence my lack of participation. Am not liking that one little bit. I'd like to be commenting on pics and I can not. Plus I wouldn't mind sharing a few. Had to be home for a couple days so I get this slim window to see what happening.
    Michael
  • rwellsrwells Registered Users Posts: 6,084 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    I hate to have to say this, but I'm disappointed in this image Tom :cry



    I figure that anyone who can do the polar swim, can also handle a dip in a tepid pool like this rolleyes1.gif
    I thought for sure I'd see your flip-flops on the side of the pool thumb.gif


    Given that it may take some time to get over my disappointment, I'll start by saying that this is a nice image anyway!
    Randy
  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    DaddyO wrote: »
    Falling through doesn't sound like the least bit of fun Tom :D You make it sound so very unpleasant lol3.gif
    when it appears to be a really pleasant spot and neatly imaged at that thumb.gif

    I been in up in the woods with near zero net connection... or so slow it might as well not even be one...hence my lack of participation. Am not liking that one little bit. I'd like to be commenting on pics and I can not. Plus I wouldn't mind sharing a few. Had to be home for a couple days so I get this slim window to see what happening.

    Boy, Michael, it's really great to hear from you. It'll be even better when you fire out a couple of things for us to enjoy.

    That falling through the earthen crust is no bad fantasy. The Park has published material that says, in the past years, about 12 people have done just that; and all got scalded to death. Additionally, they say hundreds more have been horribly burned. I personally saw areas where the crust around these hydra-thermal features was no thicker than 3 inches. To their credit, the Park constantly warns people....very emphatically, I might add....to stay behind barriers. Some people don't heed the warnings and it's those folks who have paid dearly.

    Take care my friend,

    Tom
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  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2012
    rwells wrote: »
    I hate to have to say this, but I'm disappointed in this image Tom :cry



    I figure that anyone who can do the polar swim, can also handle a dip in a tepid pool like this rolleyes1.gif
    I thought for sure I'd see your flip-flops on the side of the pool thumb.gif


    Given that it may take some time to get over my disappointment, I'll start by saying that this is a nice image anyway!

    Hey pard,

    Well, when I did the polar swim I didn't notice anyone actually dying. True, there was all kind of wheezing, hollering, and other un-Godly noises being made....but no dying. I'll admit, though, there was a brief period when I thought that I might become the first fatality. Damn, that was a stupid thing to do.

    Read, above, what I told to Michael. The danger side of those geyser basins is for real. A couple of years ago, a relatively small geyser " exploded " . This geyser was only about 40-50 feet from the wooden walkway you walk on. There were 8 people in a group looking at it, and they were at the closet viewing point ...about 50 feet. When the thing blew, it chunked rocks in all directions, up to 200 feet away. Miraculously, no one in the group got hit. But these areas are fascinating....I kept going back; they were the highlight of the trip for me.

    Take care, buddy,

    Tom
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