Barn, etc. Feedback Requested

lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
edited March 15, 2013 in Landscapes
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited March 12, 2013
    Sorry to be blunt, but there are far too many possible subjects in this shot which would de-empasize the barn, which also happens to be obscured with foreground objects.
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  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    Do you know the work of Stephen Shore? I have no real interest in cropping out everything but the subject. The yellow silage and the red barn ARE the subject.
  • Hikin' MikeHikin' Mike Registered Users Posts: 5,467 Major grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    Maybe I'm biased because I generally don't like man-made elements in the Landscape section. I don't see anything that draws me into this scene. Maybe if this was taken in different light, cool clouds or something, but it doesn't work for me.
  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    Maybe not your thing. Here's a Stephen Shore composition. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=stephen+shore&ei=UTF-8&fr=chrf-yff18.
  • black mambablack mamba Registered Users Posts: 8,323 Major grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    You asked for feedback. I wish I could be more positive but I find no compelling reason to give this picture more than a cursory look. It's a pleasant enough farm scene but it lacks any central point of interest that holds my attention. I think there are elements in the scene that could be developed into something more interesting but you will have to narrow your scope of presentation for that to happen.
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  • EaracheEarache Registered Users Posts: 3,533 Major grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    You asked for feedback. I wish I could be more positive but I find no compelling reason to give this picture more than a cursory look. It's a pleasant enough farm scene but it lacks any central point of interest that holds my attention. I think there are elements in the scene that could be developed into something more interesting but you will have to narrow your scope of presentation for that to happen.
    15524779-Ti.gif Sounds like you already knew what you liked and wanted - not sure why you asked for feedback.
    The clothesline mitigates the composition for me.
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  • superduckzsuperduckz Registered Users Posts: 377 Major grins
    edited March 12, 2013
    I think I get where you were going here and I think you're close. As has already been said, I like the elements but the arrangment is.. off... Even if you'd hit, I'm not sure it'd qualifiy as a landscape.
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited March 12, 2013
    I see the focal point as the silos, not the barn. The fence leads you nicely into them and they're placed on a rule of thirds location. That big pile of grain husks or whatever it is, is unusual which is good. Sky and lighting isn't the best. That red truck in the right of the shot is unfortunate because it draws your eyes away from the silos and there's really nothing to see when you get there. If you can shoot here again, I'm sure there's a lot more comps you could get. That clothesline (or whatever it is) framed against the silage would make a really cool minimalism shot.
  • EaracheEarache Registered Users Posts: 3,533 Major grins
    edited March 13, 2013
    OP, I took a look at the link you provided for Stephen Shore's work and I now better understand the context of your image - if your intent is to emulate Shore's style, then I see what you are aiming for. Shore's is a quirky and interesting body of work, but definitely from a different time, and probably for many viewers here, an acquired taste. It's good to see in a different way sometimes. thumb.gif
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  • superduckzsuperduckz Registered Users Posts: 377 Major grins
    edited March 13, 2013
    15524779-Ti.gif Ditto... Shore has an nteresting "quirk"
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  • LarryDLarryD Registered Users Posts: 99 Big grins
    edited March 13, 2013
    Shore is known for banal and uninteresting objects and making them the focus of the image with the use of color and composition...

    If this was done in Shore style, the clothesline would be the subject and the barn and silos would complement the image..

    This would be a better representation of his "style" (in my opinion) with a tighter crop on the clothesline, a proper placement of it, and the color of the barn, hay, and silo less prominent, but clearly visible...
  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 14, 2013
    Detail of Barn Shot
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    This is certainly simpler and easier to get as a composition. I'm very fond of color composition in addition to placement of subjects (Harrald Mante, etc.) Here are the three primaries.
  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 14, 2013
    LarryD wrote: »
    Shore is known for banal and uninteresting objects and making them the focus of the image with the use of color and composition...

    If this was done in Shore style, the clothesline would be the subject and the barn and silos would complement the image..

    This would be a better representation of his "style" (in my opinion) with a tighter crop on the clothesline, a proper placement of it, and the color of the barn, hay, and silo less prominent, but clearly visible...

    I don't think he's banal at all. What he does is very similar to what Arbus did, that is, helps us see what we don't see. I think of his gas station and his dirt street in Presidio, Texas, as deeply poetic. I'm not much interested in conventional "pretty pictures," e.g.; sunsets and nature scenes that look like advertisements for AAA or Arizona Highways.
  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 14, 2013
    Art Photography?
    It occurs to me I may be in the wrong place. Anybody know where I can find a group of cutting edge art photographers?
  • endurodogendurodog Registered Users Posts: 183 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2013
    Have you thought about posting in one of the other forums. You did post in landscapes and it sounds like your looking for feedback in a different area. Maybe the "other cool shots" forum would suit this shot lots better than Landscapes. Think it fell into the ugly duckling thing that is really a pretty swan.
  • lightdrunklightdrunk Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited March 14, 2013
    endurodog wrote: »
    Have you thought about posting in one of the other forums. You did post in landscapes and it sounds like your looking for feedback in a different area. Maybe the "other cool shots" forum would suit this shot lots better than Landscapes. Think it fell into the ugly duckling thing that is really a pretty swan.


    Thanks, dawg.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited March 15, 2013
    lightdrunk wrote: »
    LarryD wrote: »
    Shore is known for banal and uninteresting objects and making them the focus of the image with the use of color and composition...

    I don't think he's banal at all.
    Slow down and read what he actually said. You may learn something.
  • EiaEia Registered Users Posts: 3,627 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2013
    Well - personally I like the photo as is...because that is how it looks if you want it that way. However, to give it 'a look'... can you crop just so the truck is out of the way and to really make it that look...desaturated a bit. That would be fun! This has soooo much potential for many looks and feel!
  • JuanoJuano Registered Users Posts: 4,890 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2013
    lightdrunk wrote: »
    I don't think he's banal at all. What he does is very similar to what Arbus did, that is, helps us see what we don't see. I think of his gas station and his dirt street in Presidio, Texas, as deeply poetic. I'm not much interested in conventional "pretty pictures," e.g.; sunsets and nature scenes that look like advertisements for AAA or Arizona Highways.

    This is an interesting discussion. I looked at some of Shore's work and I think it's great, but in my opinion very few images stand out by themselves. The images work as a collective body, that's how they become so potent. I'm no art critic by any means. In any case, that's why I find Dgrin great!
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