The second one works for me on the trees but the warm clouds don't feel right and the water color seems to have lost some drama. If you applied the temp correction with a brush you could maintain some warm/cool contrast.
A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.
The second one works for me on the trees but the warm clouds don't feel right and the water color seems to have lost some drama. If you applied the temp correction with a brush you could maintain some warm/cool contrast.
A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.
Thanks, guys! Sounds like I should probably keep the original version. Color balance in landscapes can get real tricky sometimes and it's always great to have a second set of eyes or 20 of them.
I like them both. I usually tend to opt towards processing my images with a warmer tone, but I do see the point the others have raised. After looking at them both for a while, I think it's the water that isn't sitting quite right with me. It looks like the shutter has been delayed just a little on the waterfall to capture the motion, but IMO there is not enough movement in the rest of the water. I think there may be too much detail in the water.
With the rest of the image, though, it's great. I love the drama!
I was going to suggest a curves bump on the first one, but after seeing the jazzed up version, some other posters might have pegged it about the colder and darker original being more true. The second has a hint of HDR to it (I know that isn't the process) that I think works against it. Numero uno.
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I like them both. I usually tend to opt towards processing my images with a warmer tone, but I do see the point the others have raised. After looking at them both for a while, I think it's the water that isn't sitting quite right with me. It looks like the shutter has been delayed just a little on the waterfall to capture the motion, but IMO there is not enough movement in the rest of the water. I think there may be too much detail in the water.
With the rest of the image, though, it's great. I love the drama!
Thanks Karl. There was some global sharpening on the image which may have affected the pool of water differently than the waterfall. I'll probably go back and take a closer look. I appreciate the comment.
I was going to suggest a curves bump on the first one, but after seeing the jazzed up version, some other posters might have pegged it about the colder and darker original being more true. The second has a hint of HDR to it (I know that isn't the process) that I think works against it. Numero uno.
Thanks, David. Aaron Newman seemed to think it needs a stronger black point too. Of course everything is a tradeoff. I may keep it as is and move on to more pics from my backlog.
Really nice. I might darken the shadow a touch, which could add some mystery to the shot. But it's really sweet as is, too!
Thanks, David. Good to see you here. Aaron Newman said essentially the same thing so you're in good company. I may try reprocessing a bit to darken the shadows.
Absolutely marvelous. I'm glad Glacier National Park still has glorious water displays. Global warming seems to be melting the glaciers everywhere. In Canada's Glacier National Park I found no glaciers that were convenient to reach. Far better in Iceland, with Europe's largest glacier, each arm given a separate name. But much smaller Icelandic alpine glaciers are also melting. We all need to photograph glaciers while they are still here.
A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.
Flipping impressive Joel
I have been viewing this for a spell. Everything so near perfect in every regard I had no comment outward just inward. Very busy just being there. Thank you.
Has me thinking about a drive and a walk. All weekend.
I don't see the warmed up example for some reason and well... I don't need to.
As seen it is all of 9.5 for me. I don't believe there is much of anything that will make it more impactful and beautiful than it already is.
For what I am seeing and feeling out of this image, you have delivered near real appearance wonderfully. That's my emotional subjective viewer preference.
Did have to try something just cause I thought I was catching something, a maybe, so I tried lg burn tool, shadows selected @ 7 percent and went through the trees above the river and right up the slope for just a shave of contrast for a quick look. Hmmm.... maybe
I also got to see the difference between shown on charcoal dark vs. PS light gray. I have a great deal of trouble with selecting enhancing boarder colors.
Again, and excellent image. I will have to thumb through and see if you posted the original out of that
5D II. I may have to sell the house to finally own a quality camera situation again capable of doing this kind of shot.
Absolutely marvelous. I'm glad Glacier National Park still has glorious water displays. Global warming seems to be melting the glaciers everywhere. In Canada's Glacier National Park I found no glaciers that were convenient to reach. Far better in Iceland, with Europe's largest glacier, each arm given a separate name. But much smaller Icelandic alpine glaciers are also melting. We all need to photograph glaciers while they are still here.
Thanks very much, Intrepid. Glacier is pretty amazing.
Flipping impressive Joel
I have been viewing this for a spell. Everything so near perfect in every regard I had no comment outward just inward. Very busy just being there. Thank you.
Has me thinking about a drive and a walk. All weekend.
I don't see the warmed up example for some reason and well... I don't need to.
As seen it is all of 9.5 for me. I don't believe there is much of anything that will make it more impactful and beautiful than it already is.
For what I am seeing and feeling out of this image, you have delivered near real appearance wonderfully. That's my emotional subjective viewer preference.
Did have to try something just cause I thought I was catching something, a maybe, so I tried lg burn tool, shadows selected @ 7 percent and went through the trees above the river and right up the slope for just a shave of contrast for a quick look. Hmmm.... maybe
I also got to see the difference between shown on charcoal dark vs. PS light gray. I have a great deal of trouble with selecting enhancing boarder colors.
Again, and excellent image. I will have to thumb through and see if you posted the original out of that
5D II. I may have to sell the house to finally own a quality camera situation again capable of doing this kind of shot.
Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.
Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.
-joel
I think everybody took a really close look cause it is such a sweet result Sweet sweet sweet.
Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.
-joel
Get yourself a monitor calibrator, like the Xrite i1 Display Pro. Your images deserve it!
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Thanks, you may have a point there. How's this look by comparison?
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IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.
Thanks, guys! Sounds like I should probably keep the original version. Color balance in landscapes can get real tricky sometimes and it's always great to have a second set of eyes or 20 of them.
I really appreciate you guys checking in.
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I like them both. I usually tend to opt towards processing my images with a warmer tone, but I do see the point the others have raised. After looking at them both for a while, I think it's the water that isn't sitting quite right with me. It looks like the shutter has been delayed just a little on the waterfall to capture the motion, but IMO there is not enough movement in the rest of the water. I think there may be too much detail in the water.
With the rest of the image, though, it's great. I love the drama!
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Thanks! I like it....but #1 definitely works better because of all the cold out there! Awesome stuff!
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Thanks Jared.
Thanks Karl. There was some global sharpening on the image which may have affected the pool of water differently than the waterfall. I'll probably go back and take a closer look. I appreciate the comment.
Thanks, Leonard.
Thanks again, man. It was worth looking at.
Thanks, David. Aaron Newman seemed to think it needs a stronger black point too. Of course everything is a tradeoff. I may keep it as is and move on to more pics from my backlog.
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The first one looks fine to me...
Thanks, David. Good to see you here. Aaron Newman said essentially the same thing so you're in good company. I may try reprocessing a bit to darken the shadows.
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It's not often that we come across the opportunity to shoot a scene like that...
I have been viewing this for a spell. Everything so near perfect in every regard I had no comment outward just inward. Very busy just being there.
Has me thinking about a drive and a walk. All weekend.
I don't see the warmed up example for some reason and well... I don't need to.
As seen it is all of 9.5 for me. I don't believe there is much of anything that will make it more impactful and beautiful than it already is.
For what I am seeing and feeling out of this image, you have delivered near real appearance wonderfully. That's my emotional subjective viewer preference.
Did have to try something just cause I thought I was catching something, a maybe, so I tried lg burn tool, shadows selected @ 7 percent and went through the trees above the river and right up the slope for just a shave of contrast for a quick look. Hmmm.... maybe
I also got to see the difference between shown on charcoal dark vs. PS light gray. I have a great deal of trouble with selecting enhancing boarder colors.
Again, and excellent image. I will have to thumb through and see if you posted the original out of that
5D II. I may have to sell the house to finally own a quality camera situation again capable of doing this kind of shot.
Thanks, guys!
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-joel
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I think everybody took a really close look cause it is such a sweet result
Get yourself a monitor calibrator, like the Xrite i1 Display Pro. Your images deserve it!
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