One from Glacier

kdog

Looking through some shots from Glacier National Park last spring that I've barely had time to process, this one caught my eye.



Thanks for looking!
-joel

IDDB

Original composition... I like it.

Stumblebum

Gorgeous! I would like to see how it looks if you warmed up the colors a bit!

kdog

IDDB wrote: »

Original composition... I like it.

Thanks!

kdog

Stumblebum wrote: »

Gorgeous! I would like to see how it looks if you warmed up the colors a bit!

Thanks, you may have a point there. How's this look by comparison?

WernerG

The second one works for me on the trees but the warm clouds don't feel right and the water color seems to have lost some drama. If you applied the temp correction with a brush you could maintain some warm/cool contrast.

black mamba

I like the first one best, Joel. The slightly subdued colors work better with that ominus sky. Nice work.

Tom

Earache

A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.

kdog

WernerG wrote: »

The second one works for me on the trees but the warm clouds don't feel right and the water color seems to have lost some drama. If you applied the temp correction with a brush you could maintain some warm/cool contrast.

black mamba wrote: »

I like the first one best, Joel. The slightly subdued colors work better with that ominus sky. Nice work.

Tom

Earache wrote: »

A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.

Thanks, guys! Sounds like I should probably keep the original version. Color balance in landscapes can get real tricky sometimes and it's always great to have a second set of eyes or 20 of them.

I really appreciate you guys checking in.

shawnc

I have to go with the first one too. The warmth seems to do battle with the stormy looking clouds. Great image by the way.

JTB-DC

I too prefer numero uno. Those clouds are great, almost look painted in, especially with all else being extremely sharp.

Alpha_Plus

Nice image Joel.

I like them both. I usually tend to opt towards processing my images with a warmer tone, but I do see the point the others have raised. After looking at them both for a while, I think it's the water that isn't sitting quite right with me. It looks like the shutter has been delayed just a little on the waterfall to capture the motion, but IMO there is not enough movement in the rest of the water. I think there may be too much detail in the water.

With the rest of the image, though, it's great. I love the drama!

bristlecone

Outstanding! The first one has it for me, natural feeling to it and the water has very nice movement.

Stumblebum

kdog wrote: »

Thanks, you may have a point there. How's this look by comparison?

Thanks! I like it....but #1 definitely works better because of all the cold out there! Awesome stuff!

David_S85

I was going to suggest a curves bump on the first one, but after seeing the jazzed up version, some other posters might have pegged it about the colder and darker original being more true. The second has a hint of HDR to it (I know that isn't the process) that I think works against it. Numero uno.

kdog

shawnc wrote: »

I have to go with the first one too. The warmth seems to do battle with the stormy looking clouds. Great image by the way.

Thanks Shawn.

JTB-DC wrote: »

I too prefer numero uno. Those clouds are great, almost look painted in, especially with all else being extremely sharp.

Thanks Jared.

Alpha_Plus wrote: »

Nice image Joel.

I like them both. I usually tend to opt towards processing my images with a warmer tone, but I do see the point the others have raised. After looking at them both for a while, I think it's the water that isn't sitting quite right with me. It looks like the shutter has been delayed just a little on the waterfall to capture the motion, but IMO there is not enough movement in the rest of the water. I think there may be too much detail in the water.

With the rest of the image, though, it's great. I love the drama!

Thanks Karl. There was some global sharpening on the image which may have affected the pool of water differently than the waterfall. I'll probably go back and take a closer look. I appreciate the comment.

bristlecone wrote: »

Outstanding! The first one has it for me, natural feeling to it and the water has very nice movement.

Thanks, Leonard.

Stumblebum wrote: »

Thanks! I like it....but #1 definitely works better because of all the cold out there! Awesome stuff!

Thanks again, man. It was worth looking at.

David_S85 wrote: »

I was going to suggest a curves bump on the first one, but after seeing the jazzed up version, some other posters might have pegged it about the colder and darker original being more true. The second has a hint of HDR to it (I know that isn't the process) that I think works against it. Numero uno.

Thanks, David. Aaron Newman seemed to think it needs a stronger black point too. Of course everything is a tradeoff. I may keep it as is and move on to more pics from my backlog.

LightMagic

The first one works for me too. The clouds and the water have the right "dramatic feel" in that... Beautiful picture!

DavidTO

Really nice. I might darken the shadow a touch, which could add some mystery to the shot. But it's really sweet as is, too!

rwells

Sweet shot Joel!

The first one looks fine to me...

kdog

LightMagic wrote: »

The first one works for me too. The clouds and the water have the right "dramatic feel" in that... Beautiful picture!

Thanks, LM!

DavidTO wrote: »

Really nice. I might darken the shadow a touch, which could add some mystery to the shot. But it's really sweet as is, too!

Thanks, David. Good to see you here. Aaron Newman said essentially the same thing so you're in good company. I may try reprocessing a bit to darken the shadows.

rwells wrote: »

Sweet shot Joel!

The first one looks fine to me...

Thanks, Randy!

IntrepidBerkeleyExplorer

Absolutely marvelous. I'm glad Glacier National Park still has glorious water displays. Global warming seems to be melting the glaciers everywhere. In Canada's Glacier National Park I found no glaciers that were convenient to reach. Far better in Iceland, with Europe's largest glacier, each arm given a separate name. But much smaller Icelandic alpine glaciers are also melting. We all need to photograph glaciers while they are still here.

wfeller

Great work!

Mathieu05

Excellent scenery captured!

LarryD

Great scene, well done..

It's not often that we come across the opportunity to shoot a scene like that...

DaddyO

Earache wrote: »

A real beauty Joel! So many, nicely-balanced elements to view - wonderful depth.
IMO the original is just right... cloudy days - by nature - have a cooler, steely, temperature.
Version 2 looks unnatural/corrected to me - I'm sure there is subjective viewer preference on my part involved.

Flipping impressive Joel
I have been viewing this for a spell. Everything so near perfect in every regard I had no comment outward just inward. Very busy just being there. Thank you.
Has me thinking about a drive and a walk. All weekend.
I don't see the warmed up example for some reason and well... I don't need to.
As seen it is all of 9.5 for me. I don't believe there is much of anything that will make it more impactful and beautiful than it already is.
For what I am seeing and feeling out of this image, you have delivered near real appearance wonderfully. That's my emotional subjective viewer preference.
Did have to try something just cause I thought I was catching something, a maybe, so I tried lg burn tool, shadows selected @ 7 percent and went through the trees above the river and right up the slope for just a shave of contrast for a quick look. Hmmm.... maybe
I also got to see the difference between shown on charcoal dark vs. PS light gray. I have a great deal of trouble with selecting enhancing boarder colors.
Again, and excellent image. I will have to thumb through and see if you posted the original out of that
5D II. I may have to sell the house to finally own a quality camera situation again capable of doing this kind of shot.

kdog

IntrepidBerkeleyExplorer wrote: »

Absolutely marvelous. I'm glad Glacier National Park still has glorious water displays. Global warming seems to be melting the glaciers everywhere. In Canada's Glacier National Park I found no glaciers that were convenient to reach. Far better in Iceland, with Europe's largest glacier, each arm given a separate name. But much smaller Icelandic alpine glaciers are also melting. We all need to photograph glaciers while they are still here.

Thanks very much, Intrepid. Glacier is pretty amazing.

wfeller wrote: »

Great work!

Mathieu05 wrote: »

Excellent scenery captured!

LarryD wrote: »

Great scene, well done..

It's not often that we come across the opportunity to shoot a scene like that...

Thanks, guys!

kdog

DaddyO wrote: »

Flipping impressive Joel
I have been viewing this for a spell. Everything so near perfect in every regard I had no comment outward just inward. Very busy just being there. Thank you.
Has me thinking about a drive and a walk. All weekend.
I don't see the warmed up example for some reason and well... I don't need to.
As seen it is all of 9.5 for me. I don't believe there is much of anything that will make it more impactful and beautiful than it already is.
For what I am seeing and feeling out of this image, you have delivered near real appearance wonderfully. That's my emotional subjective viewer preference.
Did have to try something just cause I thought I was catching something, a maybe, so I tried lg burn tool, shadows selected @ 7 percent and went through the trees above the river and right up the slope for just a shave of contrast for a quick look. Hmmm.... maybe
I also got to see the difference between shown on charcoal dark vs. PS light gray. I have a great deal of trouble with selecting enhancing boarder colors.
Again, and excellent image. I will have to thumb through and see if you posted the original out of that
5D II. I may have to sell the house to finally own a quality camera situation again capable of doing this kind of shot.

Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.

-joel

DaddyO

kdog wrote: »

Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.

-joel

I think everybody took a really close look cause it is such a sweet result Sweet sweet sweet.

DavidTO

kdog wrote: »

Thanks very much, Michael. I'm flattered that you would take the time to play around with my image. I thought my dark tones looked ok on my monitor which I've calibrated crudely for luminance in the past and as a result is set pretty dark compared to most folks monitors. I happen to look at this image on a friend's monitor today at his house and I was absolutely appalled at how washed out it looked. I'll probably start over with the image and see if I can better preserve the darker tones so they present better in general. Really appreciate you taking such a close look.

-joel

Get yourself a monitor calibrator, like the Xrite i1 Display Pro. Your images deserve it!

kdog

DavidTO wrote: »

Get yourself a monitor calibrator, like the Xrite i1 Display Pro. Your images deserve it!

Yeah, I currently use an Xrite eye-one Display2 calibrator, but it doesn't have luminance. Time to upgrade!

bike21

Well done! I may be heading to Glacier tomorrow for a quick day trip - are there may access points from the road for good shots?