Compositing Comments PLEASE

BilsenBilsen Registered Users Posts: 2,143 Major grins
edited April 20, 2013 in People
For those of you who deal in compositing, this is my first stab at dropping a background into the Cyndia set of our World Tour project.


Simple questions: What's right? What's wrong? How do I improve this image??


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Bilsen (the artist formerly known as John Galt NY)
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Comments

  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2013
    Not that bad. Lighting does not match exactly so it looks a little 3Dish.
  • DreadnoteDreadnote Registered Users Posts: 634 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2013
    Not a compositing issue per say, but for some reason her stomach is yellow and blotchy.
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  • TinstaflTinstafl Registered Users Posts: 355 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2013
    Pretty good job. Te stomach looks funny as was mentioned.
  • Mike JMike J Registered Users Posts: 1,029 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2013
    You did a good job on the extraction. The hair looks good which is what has been giving me fits lately.

    The stomach does look funny. The blotch at the top and the way the skirt lays at the bottom of her stomach are doing some pretty unflattering things.

    As Hackbone mentioned, the lighting is making it look 3D. You've done as many of these composites as I have so my 2 cents are worth just that...:D ...but here goes...

    From the tutorials I've watched, you need to pay attention to both direction of the light and the color of the light. The direction of light on the BG and the subject looks to be mostly consistent to me - from camera left but the BG light does appear to be coming more from the side while the subject's main light is more towards the front. Not too bad though.

    The color tone of the BG will rarely match that of the subject. One technique has you apply the same photo filter effect to the BG and subject to bring them closer together. The other technique finds the average color tone of the BG and uses that tone the subject. The steps were something like this:
    -copy the BG layer and move it to the top of the stack
    - on this layer do a Filter->Blur->Average. This turns the layer into the average color of everything on that layer
    - Use a clipping mask to add this color to the subject. This works if you brought in the subject along with the cutout mask.
    - Change the blend mode to color and reduce the opacity to about 20%. This tones your subject towards the BG.

    I've never tried this method so I don't know how it would work here. I wonder if you could do it the other way and get the average color from her and then use that to tone the BG.
    Mike J

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  • EphTwoEightEphTwoEight Registered Users Posts: 552 Major grins
    edited April 20, 2013
    Hands are white, (and blown out) gut is yellow, and forehead is in between.

    But I like it otherwise. Most people wont notice them things anyway, so I'd say keep it.
  • BilsenBilsen Registered Users Posts: 2,143 Major grins
    edited April 20, 2013
    Thanks all.

    Mike, I need to try that color averaging technique.
    Eph, next version will correct those things.
    Hack, you have a good eye.
    Bilsen (the artist formerly known as John Galt NY)
    Canon 600D; Canon 1D Mk2;
    24-105 f4L IS; 70-200 f4L IS; 50mm 1.4; 28-75 f2.8; 55-250 IS; 580EX & (2) 430EX Flash,
    Model Galleries: http://bilsen.zenfolio.com/
    Everything Else: www.pbase.com/bilsen
  • DreadnoteDreadnote Registered Users Posts: 634 Major grins
    edited April 20, 2013
    I'm kind of curious as to what your process is, specifically, shot number 3 here:

    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=233924

    doesn't manifest any of the odd color issues shown in this composite. I am assuming that these were all taken at the same time with the same lights. So what happened? What did you do to get these odd color shifts? Perhaps with that information more useful pointers would be possible.
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  • BilsenBilsen Registered Users Posts: 2,143 Major grins
    edited April 20, 2013
    Hi Dread,

    Bthe original RAWs had her belly as a bit too bright due to the fact that her face was madeup but not her body. As a result, her light skin on her stomach needed to be toned down a bit in post.

    As for why the color shifts here, I need to go back and do a step by step analysis but I suspect it happened when I tried to balance the brightness with the curves too.
    Bilsen (the artist formerly known as John Galt NY)
    Canon 600D; Canon 1D Mk2;
    24-105 f4L IS; 70-200 f4L IS; 50mm 1.4; 28-75 f2.8; 55-250 IS; 580EX & (2) 430EX Flash,
    Model Galleries: http://bilsen.zenfolio.com/
    Everything Else: www.pbase.com/bilsen
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