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bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
edited July 22, 2013 in Street and Documentary
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"He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

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  • TonyCooperTonyCooper Registered Users Posts: 2,276 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2013
    I am fully aware of the disdain in this group for camera club competition
    judging, but flowers can sprout from a pile of manure.

    At Monday's judging at my camera club, an image similar to this was
    critiqued. The judge made some comments about cropping or full-frame
    photographs where a partial head was all that remained. Better, he said,
    to include all of a head and face or crop down to mid-chest. As a general
    guideline, but not always the case, I would agree.

    With this image, it's all about the girl. I would crop it square and cut out
    much of the right side with that partial leg and down to mid-chest of the man
    behind her. The loss in this image would be the man in the yarmulke at the
    upper right. He places the image and what the event is.

    I do understand that some people feel that this type of photo should not
    be cropped at all. You show what you took. I have no such reservations.
    Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2013
    Thanks for the thoughtful response, Tony. As I posted it this way - and I often do square crops, this is the way I believe it should be presented. The image is one of an oddly adult looking little girl at sea in an ocean of adults. Cropped, that would be lost. But to each his own.
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
  • doyledoyle Registered Users Posts: 29 Big grins
    edited July 11, 2013
    While normally I would agree with the idea of cropping out the man's head, in this case it works perfectly for me. His mouth expression matches the girls but what really captures it for me is the way everyone is holding some sort of drink in the same way. Bravo, excellent.
  • lensmolelensmole Registered Users Posts: 1,548 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2013
    Cropping is not necessary but I think a vertical composition might have worked better.
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2013
    I can see that, Mole, but I tend to see horizontally. And I wanted everything that's in the frame. Thus the horizontal composition.
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
  • TonyCooperTonyCooper Registered Users Posts: 2,276 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2013
    bdcolen wrote: »
    I can see that, Mole, but I tend to see horizontally. And I wanted everything that's in the frame. Thus the horizontal composition.

    You have said in another thread that there are no rules.

    There are.

    Rule #1 Process images to look the way you want them to look.

    Rule #2 Other people will suggest other ways to process the images.

    Rule #3 See Rule #1.
    Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2013
    TonyCooper wrote: »
    You have said in another thread that there are no rules.

    There are.

    Rule #1 Process images to look the way you want them to look.

    Rule #2 Other people will suggest other ways to process the images.

    Rule #3 See Rule #1.

    Perfect, Tony. (Thought "think about the criticism, consider where it comes from, and consider whether it may make sense," would be a good corollary to your Rule 2.) clap.gifclap
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
  • lensmolelensmole Registered Users Posts: 1,548 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2013
    bdcolen wrote: »
    I can see that, Mole, but I tend to see horizontally. And I wanted everything that's in the frame. Thus the horizontal composition.


    I have a tendency to see more vertically but only when I am standing on my head.rolleyes1.gif
  • bdcolenbdcolen Registered Users Posts: 3,804 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2013
    :-)
    bd@bdcolenphoto.com
    "He not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan

    "The more ambiguous the photograph is, the better it is..." Leonard Freed
  • EaracheEarache Registered Users Posts: 3,533 Major grins
    edited July 22, 2013
    I keep coming back to this one because there is so much to like here, including the (entire) crop, the tilt, the drinks, the expressive, charming child...
    and not the least... the strange little face on the right edge!
    Nice!
    Eric ~ Smugmug
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