What will hapen with url for the photos embebed in blogs?

LiaquilaLiaquila Registered Users Posts: 3 Beginner grinner
edited August 31, 2013 in SmugMug Support
Hi
I have a Smugmug site protected by password. I also have a blog and I use smugmug to keep all my photos from the blog in it.
All my posts use photos stored in Smugmug.
When I migrate, will the url for the already existing photos change, creating broken links in my blog?

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  • zacHer0zacHer0 Registered Users Posts: 655 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2013
    Your links will be just fine. We aren't changing them :).
    Zac Williams
    Support Hero
  • botpixbotpix Registered Users Posts: 29 Big grins
    edited July 30, 2013
    What about as we organize?
    What about as we organize? As I start to move things around in the Organize tool, will that change links since things are moving?
    Drew Lockwood
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  • LiaquilaLiaquila Registered Users Posts: 3 Beginner grinner
    edited July 31, 2013
    botpix wrote: »
    What about as we organize? As I start to move things around in the Organize tool, will that change links since things are moving?

    Good question! I want to know the answert too...
  • AdamNPAdamNP Registered Users Posts: 178 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2013
    zacHer0 wrote: »
    Your links will be just fine. We aren't changing them :).

    This simply isn't true. The links HAVE changed, massively. Perhaps the direct file links are correctly redirecting to the new format. However, the links I was using on my main web site (over 1,000 of them) no longer work at all... they simply redirect to the gallery the photo resides in. Here's an example.

    http://www.nationalparked.net/National-Parks/Yosemite/10139683_42RZC#697240094_JAbQJ-XL-LB

    That means over 1,000 links on my web site are now broken, and have to be replaced. It's just obvious that the file/gallery keys are different (they used to be a 5 character sequence, now they are 7). While the "Buy" links, and I assume some others, do somehow redirect correctly, ones like I pasted above do NOT.
  • BulldoggieBulldoggie Registered Users Posts: 19 Big grins
    edited August 1, 2013
    Oh noes
    AdamNP wrote: »
    This simply isn't true. The links HAVE changed, massively. Perhaps the direct file links are correctly redirecting to the new format. However, the links I was using on my main web site (over 1,000 of them) no longer work at all... they simply redirect to the gallery the photo resides in. Here's an example.

    http://www.nationalparked.net/National-Parks/Yosemite/10139683_42RZC#697240094_JAbQJ-XL-LB

    That means over 1,000 links on my web site are now broken, and have to be replaced. It's just obvious that the file/gallery keys are different (they used to be a 5 character sequence, now they are 7). While the "Buy" links, and I assume some others, do somehow redirect correctly, ones like I pasted above do NOT.

    I hope this gets fixed. I'd really like to move to the new smugmug, but I have several hundred links to my current images.
    Drink like a camel, eat like a pig, feel like a lion!
  • GRBlizzGRBlizz Registered Users Posts: 107 Major grins
    edited August 30, 2013
    Liaquila wrote: »
    Good question! I want to know the answert too...

    The answer is, if you reorganize, the links break. I migrated and did some reorganization, and now I have hundreds of broken links from my blog site

    It's bad enough that I'd like to unmigrate - which is saying a lot, because I love the look, feel, and performance of the new site.
  • sylviasylvia Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited August 30, 2013
    GRBlizz wrote: »
    The answer is, if you reorganize, the links break. I migrated and did some reorganization, and now I have hundreds of broken links from my blog site

    It's bad enough that I'd like to unmigrate - which is saying a lot, because I love the look, feel, and performance of the new site.

    I also migrated & reorganized, and all my links to all three blogs are fine...no problems whatsoever. And I even created entirely new galleries & moved photos...the links stayed the same in my blog posts, no problem.
  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,396 moderator
    edited August 30, 2013
    I have moved photos that are included in my blog to different folders and/or galleries. The photos in my blog are still fine. I don't know if the form of the link matters - I've used both photo links and embeddable links.

    --- Denise
  • sylviasylvia Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited August 30, 2013
    I have moved photos that are included in my blog to different folders and/or galleries. The photos in my blog are still fine. I don't know if the form of the link matters - I've used both photo links and embeddable links.

    --- Denise

    I use embeddable links mostly...a few old posts have photo links, and like Denise said, all where fine.
  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2013
    I did some experimenting on my "test" smugmug account, which was a new account I opened just to play with new Smugmug before I migrate my real site. In the past I have acquired links via the Share --> Get a Link --> Gallery Links feature.

    In new smug only one of these links maintains itself when I reorganize the site. Here was my test: I went to Gallery Links and clicked on three of the options (Gallery, Lightbox, and Slideshow), and clicked the "copy" button to copy each link. Here's what I got:
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/Trips/Hiking/Red-River-Gorge-2013 (gallery)
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/Trips/Hiking/Red-River-Gorge-2013/i-XWXZpNs/A (lightbox)
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=30904685&AlbumKey=LhGttn (slideshow)

    Then I moved the gallery to another folder. Of the three links new Smug provided from the "copy" feature, the only one that still works is the "slideshow" (note that it's the only link with an album id/album key. And oddly, it takes me to the old legacy-style slideshow.

    I haven't tried these tests with embeddable links. Unfortunately, with my legacy site, I tended to post just the "user-friendly" style link without an album key. I'd like to reorganize my site but am grappling with the fact that all my links will break when I do. So it sounds like the answer to the OP's question is that it depends on what kind of link you've been using...
  • sylviasylvia Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited August 31, 2013
    Well, I think it's pretty obvious that if you are sharing gallery links, and then you move a photo to a different gallery, then you, YOURSELF have actually broken the link. That's a whole different thing than having problems with moving a photo emebedded in a blog.

    The point is, if you have used your smugmug to upload and host your photos, and then you embed a link to photos on your blog, you can safely change to New Smugmug, and re-organize to your hearts content without worrying that you are going to mess up all the links for your blog.
    pbandj wrote: »
    I did some experimenting on my "test" smugmug account, which was a new account I opened just to play with new Smugmug before I migrate my real site. In the past I have acquired links via the Share --> Get a Link --> Gallery Links feature.

    In new smug only one of these links maintains itself when I reorganize the site. Here was my test: I went to Gallery Links and clicked on three of the options (Gallery, Lightbox, and Slideshow), and clicked the "copy" button to copy each link. Here's what I got:
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/Trips/Hiking/Red-River-Gorge-2013 (gallery)
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/Trips/Hiking/Red-River-Gorge-2013/i-XWXZpNs/A (lightbox)
    http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=30904685&AlbumKey=LhGttn (slideshow)

    Then I moved the gallery to another folder. Of the three links new Smug provided from the "copy" feature, the only one that still works is the "slideshow" (note that it's the only link with an album id/album key. And oddly, it takes me to the old legacy-style slideshow.

    I haven't tried these tests with embeddable links. Unfortunately, with my legacy site, I tended to post just the "user-friendly" style link without an album key. I'd like to reorganize my site but am grappling with the fact that all my links will break when I do. So it sounds like the answer to the OP's question is that it depends on what kind of link you've been using...
  • GRBlizzGRBlizz Registered Users Posts: 107 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2013
    sylvia wrote: »
    Well, I think it's pretty obvious that if you are sharing gallery links, and then you move a photo to a different gallery, then you, YOURSELF have actually broken the link. That's a whole different thing than having problems with moving a photo emebedded in a blog.

    The point is, if you have used your smugmug to upload and host your photos, and then you embed a link to photos on your blog, you can safely change to New Smugmug, and re-organize to your hearts content without worrying that you are going to mess up all the links for your blog.

    This is just flat incorrect.

    In Legacy, I could move a gallery to a different category, and the old link would redirect to the new URL with no problem. Now, when I do this, the URL is broken. Basically, if you do any sharing of your albums, you cannot make any changes to the title or the category/subcategory without breaking the links that are out there.
  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2013
    GRBlizz wrote: »

    In Legacy, I could move a gallery to a different category, and the old link would redirect to the new URL with no problem. Now, when I do this, the URL is broken. Basically, if you do any sharing of your albums, you cannot make any changes to the title or the category/subcategory without breaking the links that are out there.

    And Smugmug always told us that if we use the form of the link with the album key on it, the link would be "permanent." What form of link have you been using, GRBlizz? I shot myself in the foot being short-sighted by using just the "friendly" URL, so I would expect those links to break, but if you'd used the old, recommended link that included the album key, that one was supposed to work regardless of how you changed your organization.

    As I mentioned above, the way they are generating gallery links now, the "permanent" link option is just gone (I submitted a bug report on this.)
  • GRBlizzGRBlizz Registered Users Posts: 107 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2013
    pbandj wrote: »
    And Smugmug always told us that if we use the form of the link with the album key on it, the link would be "permanent." What form of link have you been using, GRBlizz? I shot myself in the foot being short-sighted by using just the "friendly" URL, so I would expect those links to break, but if you'd used the old, recommended link that included the album key, that one was supposed to work regardless of how you changed your organization.

    As I mentioned above, the way they are generating gallery links now, the "permanent" link option is just gone (I submitted a bug report on this.)

    I have found that the smu.gs shortlinks I used on Legacy do still redirect to the proper place in the new structure. Unfortunately, I only used the shortlinks when posting a "visible" link (for example, on Facebook). If I was just putting "Photos from this Event" and making that a link, I'd just cut and paste the album URL from my browser. I didn't know that it mattered to use the link with the album key, because I never had a problem before.

    The loss of the shortlink capability is the reason I started massively editing and shortening my "friendly" URLs. Now I too have shot myself in the foot, because I don't have the old structure to refer back to.

    I hope they fix this!
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