when you have lemons

HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
edited December 10, 2005 in People
Hi Y'all,

Last October I got VIP tickets for a political rally for VP nominee John Edwards and was asked to take some pics. I got to the site real early and found a perfect spot to take some shots with my 70-200/2.8. The rally was started around sunset and when I opened up my lens bag I found my 80-400 instead of my 70-200. Then when things started I discovered that directly in front of where I planned to shoot they lit a very , very strong light making it impossible to shoot from that spot.

So with no set spot to shoot from and with the wrong lens I did what I could. As always the folks in the audience were the best show. It was exciting to see so many people participating in the process and not so much exactly what they were supporting. I could have gotten the same shots at a Bush rally.

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  • binghottbinghott Registered Users Posts: 1,075 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    good shots, my only problem is with that last one. i think you might've sharpened it way too much. something is definitely wierd about it.
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  • 4labs4labs Registered Users Posts: 2,089 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    Great lemonade Harry. Love the expression on the first guy and those intense eyes...
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    It looks kind of like Edwards is wearing contacts. I keep wondering how his wife and family et al are doing.

    Good photos, Harry. I bet your heart dropped below ground when you saw only the "wrong" lens.

    ginger
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    binghott wrote:
    good shots, my only problem is with that last one. i think you might've sharpened it way too much. something is definitely wierd about it.
    Thank you Barry. The last shot was definitely not over sharpened. I don't see anything amiss myself. The lighting was funky as he had strong lighting hitting him on his left side.
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  • OwenOwen Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    Compared to the others there seems to be a lot of noise. It looks odd to me as well. :)
  • dragon300zxdragon300zx Registered Users Posts: 2,575 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    Harryb wrote:



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    Somehow I don't see this guy at a bush rally thumb.gif . Great shots. What ISO where you shooting at on the last shot of Kerry.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2005
    4labs wrote:
    Great lemonade Harry. Love the expression on the first guy and those intense eyes...
    Thanks Eric. That guy really caught my attention.
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited December 9, 2005
    Great series Harry. I was just about to ask what a fella with Iron Crosses on his hands was doing at a John Edwards rally. Seems kind of inappropriate, doesn't it?? But he is wearing his wedding ring, so.....
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    ginger_55 wrote:
    It looks kind of like Edwards is wearing contacts. I keep wondering how his wife and family et al are doing.

    Good photos, Harry. I bet your heart dropped below ground when you saw only the "wrong" lens.

    ginger
    Now that I think about it he probably was wearing contacts. He was definitely a blinker. I had to cull out a ton of shots because he had his eyes closed.

    I was more ticked at my own carelessness. I was kicking myself the whole night.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    Owen wrote:
    Compared to the others there seems to be a lot of noise. It looks odd to me as well. :)
    That last one was shot at a much higher ISO (1000) as it was after sunset. Doesn't look odd to me. Maybe thats the affect politicians have. :D
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    dragon300zx wrote:
    Somehow I don't see this guy at a bush rally thumb.gif . Great shots. What ISO where you shooting at on the last shot of Kerry.
    I was prez of my college Young Republican club and went to all their conventions and leadership conferences and I gotta tell you that you probably would find a few similar looking folks in a Bush crowd. Of course the other folks wouldn't have been as close as in this picture. :lol4

    The last shot of Edwards was at ISO 1000.
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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,009 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    good shots, my only problem is with that last one. i think you might've sharpened it way too much. something is definitely wierd about it.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Great series Harry. I was just about to ask what a fella with Iron Crosses on his hands was doing at a John Edwards rally. Seems kind of inappropriate, doesn't it?? But he is wearing his wedding ring, so.....
    Hey PF,

    I don't think he was concerned with appropriateness. :):
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    jwear wrote:
    good shots, my only problem is with that last one. i think you might've sharpened it way too much. something is definitely wierd about it.
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    yep the subject :D
    Hey JW,

    If you want a weird subject

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  • marlofmarlof Registered Users Posts: 1,833 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    A very nice series, Harry. My favorite is the black and white from the older woman. A very nice expression, and a nice B&W conversion! I think the last one suffers slightly from motion blur. Very slightly, but enough to give a sense of strangeness to the picture.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    marlof wrote:
    A very nice series, Harry. My favorite is the black and white from the older woman. A very nice expression, and a nice B&W conversion! I think the last one suffers slightly from motion blur. Very slightly, but enough to give a sense of strangeness to the picture.
    Thanks, I'm kind of partial to the B&W myself. I think you may have the answer for the last shot. It was at a slow shutter speed and Edwards was very animated.
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  • dragon300zxdragon300zx Registered Users Posts: 2,575 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    Harryb wrote:
    I was prez of my college Young Republican club and went to all their conventions and leadership conferences and I gotta tell you that you probably would find a few similar looking folks in a Bush crowd. Of course the other folks wouldn't have been as close as in this picture. :lol4

    The last shot of Edwards was at ISO 1000.

    High ISO = More grain and noise. Thats what everyone is noticing. Plus as you said slower shutter speed and he was animated so while parts of it are sharp, he was a bad model and blurred other parts like his hair. Black and White would prolly work alot better with the grain. Did you shoot in raw or .jpg? If it was in raw some of the noise can easily be removed in photoshop.
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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,009 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    Harryb wrote:
    Hey JW,

    If you want a weird subject

    37604480-L.jpg

    rolleyes1.gif
    I DID NOT SEE YOU AT THE FAMILY PICNIC :cry WHY DID YOU NOT SAY HI headscratch.gif1drink.gif
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  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    I skip lemonade and go right for the pineapple juice rolleyes1.gifthumb.gif
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited December 10, 2005
    jwear wrote:
    I DID NOT SEE YOU AT THE FAMILY PICNIC :cry WHY DID YOU NOT SAY HI headscratch.gif1drink.gif
    I did but everybody was too busy trying to date their cousins to pay any attention to me. rolleyes1.gif
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