Nav Bar with Hidden Folders

kidego32

Hello,

My Nav Bar is as follows:

HOME GALLERIES SEARCH TO SHARE BACKUPS

The last two menu items (TO SHARE and BACKUPS) are links to hidden folders, meant to only show when logged in.

Right now, visitors to the site can see those two menu items and can click on them. This leads them to an empty page, which gives the visitor the impression of an unfinished site.

Ideally, those menu items that link to hidden folders should not be displayed at all. Any way to achieve this?

aschendel

Given this, "meant to only show when logged in", I'd take them out of the primary nav and add links in an HTML block wherever you wanted, which you can then show/hide based on the logged in class "sm-user-loggedin".

Andy

kidego32

aschendel wrote: »

Given this, "meant to only show when logged in", I'd take them out of the primary nav and add links in an HTML block wherever you wanted, which you can then show/hide based on the logged in class "sm-user-loggedin".

Andy

Thanks for your reply Andy. Ok, so let's assume I didn't use the words quoted above. The question then is why are hidden folders displayed in the navigation for visitors? This defeats the purpose of hidden folders. Visitors click on them and are led to an empty page. We should not have to "hack" the navigation to actually hide "hidden" folders.

aschendel

kidego32 wrote: »

Thanks for your reply Andy. Ok, so let's assume I didn't use the words quoted above. The question then is why are hidden folders displayed in the navigation for visitors? This defeats the purpose of hidden folders. Visitors click on them and are led to an empty page. We should not have to "hack" the navigation to actually hide "hidden" folders.

Too big of a question for me, and hard to know if it's a bug or a feature at this point. If you can describe how you think it should work better a Feature Request might make sense...

Andy

DanCarl97

Mine are actually hidden when unlisted. I haven't tried folders set to "Private" but the links say "My Link (Unlisted)". When viewing logged out, they aren't there.

I can't try folders set to private right now though.

einat

This is not a solution but something you can do in the meanwhile - there's a way of customizing 404 pages (error pages). I admit - I haven't tried it myself, but maybe it could be of some help to you.

http://news.smugmug.com/2013/07/31/smug-tip-customize-your-404-search-page-and-more

snakeey11

This is by design. If you manually select (using the "Page I Choose" option) an unlisted folder/page/gallery as a link in a menu content block, it will show up to visitors. Private items will not.

The exception to this is when you choose a folder and then toggle the "Include Folder Contents" option to on. In that case, any automatically included children that are unlisted will not show up to visitors.

-Mike

kidego32

snakeey11 wrote: »

This is by design. If you manually select (using the "Page I Choose" option) an unlisted folder/page/gallery as a link in a menu content block, it will show up to visitors. Private items will not.

The exception to this is when you choose a folder and then toggle the "Include Folder Contents" option to on. In that case, any automatically included children that are unlisted will not show up to visitors.

-Mike

Mike, you've described exactly how this is working now. In my case, I've manually selected "Page I Choose" and chosen an unlisted folder. I've also chosen to "Include Folder Contents". With these settings, even though the main navigation links to an unlisted folder, visitors still see the link in the navigation menu. When visitors click on the link, they are taken to an empty page, since the folder and it's contents are unlisted.

In my opinion, this is not the way it should work. Menu links to hidden/unlisted folders should not be showing in the navigation menu unless you are logged in.

I've solved it with a few CSS hacks, but this shouldn't be required.

AceCo55

Just went to your website kidego32 ... and in the nav bar are these two entries:
"To Share"
"Backups"
... both of these take me to a blank page (it has header, nav menu and a breadcrumb - rest of screen is your background grey)
Not sure if this is what you wanted fixed.

kidego32

AceCo55 wrote: »

Just went to your website kidego32 ... and in the nav bar are these two entries:
"To Share"
"Backups"
... both of these take me to a blank page (it has header, nav menu and a breadcrumb - rest of screen is your background grey)
Not sure if this is what you wanted fixed.

Yes, that's the problem. "To Share" and "Backups" are unlisted folders. They should not be displaying to visitors, but they are.

What's strange is that I put some CSS hacks to hide them, but it appears it's not working for all browsers.

Soul Gaze Photography

Until the code wizards come up with a solution, if you're comfortable with leaving the navbar links visible, you could create a page and link to those items in the navbar. Then the page would have either a welcoming photo or helpful instructions for sharing and backups on the page and then they can click a button or link that is on the page to 'enter' the full share and backup pages and sign in.

PilotBrad

I'll pile on here... it would be nice to be able to hide menu items when not logged in.

PilotBrad

Follow up... I was able to hide the Browse link from visitor view by using the css in this thread...
http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1902989#post1902989

I also created similar css for hiding it on the mobile site as well and I've posted the code to that thread.

denisegoldberg

PilotBrad wrote: »

Follow up... I was able to hide the Browse link from visitor view by using the css in this thread...
http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1902989#post1902989

I also created similar css for hiding it on the mobile site as well and I've posted the code to that thread.

You've removed it from your menu but everyone should be aware that removing it from the menu doesn't remove the usability of the URL. I'd guess that all smug users know that /browse exists; don't assume that no one will access your site using that link.

--- Denise

PilotBrad

denisegoldberg wrote: »

I'd guess that all smug users know that /browse exists; don't assume that no one will access your site using that link.

I agree, if someone implements this they need to understand it isn't a method of securing content.

in my case this is a useful tool which allows me to guide guide visitors to my Portfolio without having them become distracted by all my public folders and galleries. If they want to "browse" my public content that's OK, but I'd rather lead them to my Portfolio galleries which are collections of content from other public galleries.