Keywords on videos

AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
edited December 12, 2013 in Bug Reporting
When clicking any keyword under a video the photos show up but videos do not. Same with search but
at least you can click "videos" or "photos and videos" and the do show. Seems the lookup methods are
related but it doesn't work for keywords.
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  • mbonocorembonocore Registered Users Posts: 2,299 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2013
    Hey Allen,

    Can you give me a specific example on your site?
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  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2013
    mbonocore wrote: »
    Hey Allen,

    Can you give me a specific example on your site?

    Easy example on mine... http://pilotdave.smugmug.com/keyword/video. Works on legacy, nothing found on new smug.

    Dave
  • JtringJtring Registered Users Posts: 675 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2013
    Let me jump in with an example since I've been watching this one too. It's come up before.

    I think the general issue is that keyword links of any type only search photos, not videos, on the new site. If you go to the /keyword page on my sandbox site and click on "fish", you will see nine results. Do the same thing on my legacy site and the keyword search will find 10 entries. The difference is the video at http://jtringl.smugmug.com/HikingtheWilds/Sierra-Nevada/Tiltill-Loop-Yosemite/i-9mnwWn4 (on the sandbox site). Same result if you click the "fish" keyword link on any picture that has the keyword. The picture right after the video, in the same gallery, has the "fish" keyword and exhibits this behavior.

    (BTW, it's not a very good video, but the fisherman in question was happy I shot it.)

    Jim Ringland
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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2013
    mbonocore wrote: »
    Hey Allen,

    Can you give me a specific example on your site?
    http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Birding-2013-August/2013-08-13-Columbia-Bottom-CA

    http://www.photosbyat.com/keyword/bird_videos

    search 320 sort newest and those in the above gallery show
    http://www.photosbyat.com/search#q=bird_videos&c=media
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  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited August 24, 2013
    Another simple example...

    If I search on the word "otter", and click "photos and videos" in the search results, I get this result: http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/search/?c=photos&n=pattiandjeane&q=otter#c=media (there are 14 images found, including three videos, because I have the keyword "otter" on those three videos.

    But the keyword page for "otter" doesn't show the videos: http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/keyword/otter (I only get the 11 photos and no videos)
  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2013
    Bump!

    This is an obvious problem with several examples provided...is it in the queue to be fixed, or has anyone acknowledged the problem?
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited October 4, 2013
    pbandj wrote: »
    Bump!

    This is an obvious problem with several examples provided...is it in the queue to be fixed, or has anyone acknowledged the problem?

    It's in the active bugs list: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=239997

    Dave
  • beardedgitbeardedgit Registered Users Posts: 854 Major grins
    edited October 4, 2013
    pilotdave wrote: »
    It's in the active bugs list...
    That only means that they've identified the bug: "Here you will find all of the identified bugs submitted by the DGrin Community in the Bug Reporting Forum". It doesn't mean that they're working on it, or that they have any plans to work on it. There are still items there that were listed way back in August.
    Yippee ki-yay, footer-muckers!
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited October 18, 2013
    bump
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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2013
    Using Smug system /keyword page

    IE11 logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361) thumb.gif
    FF26 logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361) thumb.gif
    iPhone Safari logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361) thumb.gif

    IE11 & FF26 Specific KW with photos and videos. Logged out both photos and videos show. thumb.gif
    IE11 & FF26 Specific KW with photos and videos. Logged in NO videos show only photos. headscratch.gif
    http://www.photosbyat.com/keyword/western%20wood_pewee

    IE11 logged in using /keyword/bird_videos >> No videos show headscratch.gif
    FF26 logged in using /keyword/bird_videos >> No videos show headscratch.gif

    FF26 logged in using smart gallery >> videos show up (361) thumb.gif
    http://www.photosbyat.com/MyKeywords/Bird-Videos (unveiled)

    Even though the videos do not show logged in, the Combine with: and Related know they exist (sysyem /keyword page).
    Related keywords: flycatchers pewees bird_videos col...
    Combine with: +flycatchers +pewees +bird_videos +colorado birds+bird species photographed in missouri+missouri birds+rare_bird+singing birds

    Funny thing is that KW bird_videos does not show when logged out in Related or Combine.
    Logged out KW whooping crane
    related keywords: birds in texas | shorebirds | cranes | deer
    combine with: +birds in texas | +shorebirds | +cranes | +deer
    Logged in KW whooping crane
    Related keywords: birds in texas shorebirds cranes deer birds in indiana bird_videos
    Combine with: +birds in texas+shorebirds+cranes+deer+birds in indiana+bird_videos
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  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2013
    Odd...my keyword pages still do not show videos, no matter whether I'm logged in or logged out. I have a keyword "video" on my videos, and when I click on the that keyword I get an "empty gallery" message on the keyword page. As I said, this happens when I'm logged out or logged in.
  • JtringJtring Registered Users Posts: 675 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2013
    I'm not seeing it on my site either although I can see it at www.photosbyat.com. My test case is a video of a friend catching a trout. It has the keyword "fish". Logged in or not, Chrome or Firefix, the search box on my Tools page brings up the video when I search on "fish", but "fish" from the keyword list shows only images. You've found something magical Allen, if it can just be isolated. Wonder if the Heroes can compare sites to see why the keyword search works in one place but not in another?

    Jim Ringland
    jtringl.smugmug.com
    Jim Ringland . . . . . jtringl.smugmug.com
  • pbandjpbandj Registered Users Posts: 237 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2013
    Jtring wrote: »
    I'm not seeing it on my site either although I can see it at www.photosbyat.com. My test case is a video of a friend catching a trout. It has the keyword "fish". Logged in or not, Chrome or Firefix, the search box on my Tools page brings up the video when I search on "fish", but "fish" from the keyword list shows only images. You've found something magical Allen, if it can just be isolated. Wonder if the Heroes can compare sites to see why the keyword search works in one place but not in another?

    Jim Ringland
    jtringl.smugmug.com

    photosbyat.com is still a legacy smugmug site; I'm pretty sure Allen hasn't unveiled yet. Allen -- Are you seeing the videos show up on your keyword pages in your migrated-but-not-unveiled NEW smugmug site?
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2013
    pbandj wrote: »
    photosbyat.com is still a legacy smugmug site; I'm pretty sure Allen hasn't unveiled yet. Allen -- Are you seeing the videos show up on your keyword pages in your migrated-but-not-unveiled NEW smugmug site?
    This has been around so long I guess I got confused. Legacy is working but not NewSmug. Although
    NewSmug knows they exist because the KW shows in Combine and Related.
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  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2013
    Allen wrote: »
    This has been around so long I guess I got confused. Legacy is working but not NewSmug. Although
    NewSmug knows they exist because the KW shows in Combine and Related.

    The lack of bug fixes related to keywords has me wondering if there are patent/lawsuit issues involved. I can't imagine smugmug is just not capable of fixing these bugs after this long. Doesn't give me much confidence in the future of smugmug.

    Dave
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