Disable Right Click but allow Download

jrporcarojrporcaro Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
edited August 28, 2013 in SmugMug Support
I have a situation where I want people to be able to download the images but I want to not allow right click "save image".

If people do a right click "save Image" they get the rendered image from the browser, not the original image and thus do not get the full quality. I do not charge people for the images I just want to be able to remove a support issue where they get a bad smaller version of the file.

Is there any CSS that I can use to allow the download button but disable right click or are those two things tied together.

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  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,396 moderator
    edited August 26, 2013
    With right click protection on and the largest size set to Original downloads are blocked.
    You need to set the largest size to Original and turn right click protection off.

    --- Denise
  • thenickdudethenickdude Registered Users Posts: 1,302 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2013
    The user issue you're probably having is that the download icon is too small to notice. If you make it bigger by adding the word "download" to it, customers are more likely to use it:

    http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/Large-photo-download-buttons
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2013
    Lamah wrote: »
    The user issue you're probably having is that the download icon is too small to notice. If you make it bigger by adding the word "download" to it, customers are more likely to use it:

    http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/Large-photo-download-buttons
    Actually, a lot of people don't know this... that the RC "Save Image" (or dragging the image) doesn't give the same quality. (and incidentally, my "Download Image" button is pretty visible & includes the words). A family member of mine just did this the other day instead of the "Download Image" button, and got a very crummy 4x6 print from another service. After that incident & the explanation to me from a couple other family members, I'm embarrassed to say that I myself did not know it! I mean, I knew dragging might do that, but I didn't know the RC "Save Image" would. I just thought that would give the same resolution as "Download Image".
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 26, 2013
    jrporcaro wrote: »
    I have a situation where I want people to be able to download the images but I want to not allow right click "save image".

    If people do a right click "save Image" they get the rendered image from the browser, not the original image and thus do not get the full quality. I do not charge people for the images I just want to be able to remove a support issue where they get a bad smaller version of the file.

    Is there any CSS that I can use to allow the download button but disable right click or are those two things tied together.
    I'd love to know this same thing. (I'm still on Legacy SmugMug) As I said in my other response just now, a family member did the Right Click "Save" in one of my family galleries in which I purposely allow RC. My son tried to add some JS to disable RC & change the message to tell people to use the Download Image button, but he ran into trouble and the script didn't work. If there's CSS for this, it sure would be handy as I'll want this same thing remedied in the New Smug & probably won't be able to use JS to fix it.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • jrporcarojrporcaro Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    Lamah wrote: »
    The user issue you're probably having is that the download icon is too small to notice. If you make it bigger by adding the word "download" to it, customers are more likely to use it:

    http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/Large-photo-download-buttons

    I have already done this. I am still in legacy mode and I have added a download button. The problem is that if the user drags the image of right click "Save As" it will give them a smaller browser rendered image.

    In my sand box I have added the download wording but I need another feature fixed before I can unveil.
  • jrporcarojrporcaro Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    I'd love to know this same thing. (I'm still on Legacy SmugMug) As I said in my other response just now, a family member did the Right Click "Save" in one of my family galleries in which I purposely allow RC. My son tried to add some JS to disable RC & change the message to tell people to use the Download Image button, but he ran into trouble and the script didn't work. If there's CSS for this, it sure would be handy as I'll want this same thing remedied in the New Smug & probably won't be able to use JS to fix it.

    This was my experience as well.
  • ablichterablichter Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    jrporcaro wrote: »
    I have already done this. I am still in legacy mode and I have added a download button. The problem is that if the user drags the image of right click "Save As" it will give them a smaller browser rendered image.

    In my sand box I have added the download wording but I need another feature fixed before I can unveil.
    Do you have an example? Because I feel that I get the original at 240 dpi, for example this: http://www.maplemountainsports.com/TrackandField/Spring-2011/Salem-Hills-Meet-2011/16835652_d3fgHb#!i=1270709769&k=sjDF6LG&lb=1&s=O
    Regardless if I right click and save or drag and drop.

    Edit: my understanding is, that what you see is determined by monitors and browsers color profile and other browser settings. But when saving you get the original image. If some downloads another than the original, say a "L" or "X3" version, he will get of course a resized image, which was probably done by imagemagick, GD or another php image library.
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    ablichter wrote: »
    Do you have an example? Because I feel that I get the original at 240 dpi, for example this: http://www.maplemountainsports.com/TrackandField/Spring-2011/Salem-Hills-Meet-2011/16835652_d3fgHb#!i=1270709769&k=sjDF6LG&lb=1&s=O
    Regardless if I right click and save or drag and drop.

    Edit: my understanding is, that what you see is determined by monitors and browsers color profile and other browser settings. But when saving you get the original image. If some downloads another than the original, say a "L" or "X3" version, he will get of course a resized image, which was probably done by imagemagick, GD or another php image library.

    I don't know how to show an example, but saving images 4 different ways produced 2 different results; 2 were as they should be (Owner Save through the hover-box, & also Download using said button). But 2 were much smaller files-- The Right Click & Save one, and the Drag & Drop. Even the non-photographers amongst us could see it instantly, and if we went to image info, that confirmed the disparity as the file sizes were much smaller on two of them. The same effect (pixelation due to low-res) was also quite visible in the print. If you try it a few times, I bet you'll see what we mean.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • ablichterablichter Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    I don't know how to show an example, but saving images 4 different ways produced 2 different results; 2 were as they should be (Owner Save through the hover-box, & also Download using said button). But 2 were much smaller files-- The Right Click & Save one, and the Drag & Drop. Even the non-photographers amongst us could see it instantly, and if we went to image info, that confirmed the disparity as the file sizes were much smaller on two of them. The same effect (pixelation due to low-res) was also quite visible in the print. If you try it a few times, I bet you'll see what we mean.
    Well, I really can't see and never had that. Assuming to click on the "o" first ;-) I downloaded an image from jrporcaro's site in three different ways, and they are all binary identical. And at 3.827x2.592px at 240 dpi. Especially because of the dpi I believe I got the original(s).

    Maybe you have the time to try from here -> http://www.maplemountainsports.com/TrackandField/Spring-2011/Salem-Hills-Meet-2011/16835652_d3fgHb#!i=1270709769&k=sjDF6LG and see if you can reproduce it. But its not RC protected.
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    ablichter wrote: »
    Well, I really can't see and never had that. Assuming to click on the "o" first ;-) I downloaded an image from jrporcaro's site in three different ways, and they are all binary identical. And at 3.827x2.592px at 240 dpi. Especially because of the dpi I believe I got the original(s).

    Maybe you have the time to try from here -> http://www.maplemountainsports.com/TrackandField/Spring-2011/Salem-Hills-Meet-2011/16835652_d3fgHb#!i=1270709769&k=sjDF6LG and see if you can reproduce it. But its not RC protected.
    Ahh, well, that's yet another way to download--- in lightbox view (or wherever else you can choose a size like "O"). My family member was in a gallery, not lightbox view. Sizes aren't as obvious there. And either way, the symbols really wouldn't have meant anything to her. If someone's thinking about wanting a small print size, they may know very little about resolution & just figure... oh, small print, small download. So yeah, I can't assume they'll know to click "O" first. They didn't know what the "O" was, either!
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • ablichterablichter Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    Ahh, well, that's yet another way to download--- in lightbox view (or wherever else you can choose a size like "O"). My family member was in a gallery, not lightbox view. Sizes aren't as obvious there. And either way, the symbols really wouldn't have meant anything to her. If someone's thinking about wanting a small print size, they may know very little about resolution & just figure... oh, small print, small download.
    Yepp, talking about "O" size ;) As said all other sizes are rendered by SM's host-software.
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    ablichter wrote: »
    Yepp, talking about "O" size ;) As said all other sizes are rendered by SM's host-software.
    Right. So what we still want to do is have a way to steer our family members etc. to the most obvious place where they can get a good, original file. And that place, for us (since we have a "download image" button) is that button. Since it doesn't give an option for any file sizes, they will automatically get the Original-- i.e. best, file.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • ablichterablichter Registered Users Posts: 294 Major grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    And that place, for us (since we have a "download image" button) is that button. Since it doesn't give an option for any file sizes, they will automatically get the Original-- i.e. best, file.
    Right ;) Saw that later. Hitting the "download image button" always saves the "original".
    What ever was defined a such - might be a 600x400px image.
  • jrporcarojrporcaro Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited August 27, 2013
    ablichter wrote: »
    Well, I really can't see and never had that. Assuming to click on the "o" first ;-) I downloaded an image from jrporcaro's site in three different ways, and they are all binary identical. And at 3.827x2.592px at 240 dpi. Especially because of the dpi I believe I got the original(s).

    Maybe you have the time to try from here -> http://www.maplemountainsports.com/TrackandField/Spring-2011/Salem-Hills-Meet-2011/16835652_d3fgHb#!i=1270709769&k=sjDF6LG and see if you can reproduce it. But its not RC protected.

    If I Drag the picture on the right in Smugview gallery to my desktop it is downloading a dsc_5213-x2.jpg at 1280x857. If I click the download button on the same image I get a 3872x2592 image that is the original. I am using a Mac with Safari. I am finding that the image that is shown in the smugview is rendered to fit the screen (browser) this is what is downloaded if you use the browsers right click menu to download or you drag and drop the file to your desktop. If I click the download button I get the original. This is not in any way a deal breaker but I have had many people tell me that they have had inconsistent results. I also had one person right click the thumbnail and click save image and they wondered why they got a 100x100 image. you can't win them all :)
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2013
    ablichter wrote: »
    Right ;) Saw that later. Hitting the "download image button" always saves the "original".
    What ever was defined a such - might be a 600x400px image.
    Yeah, if that's the largest size you upload, SmugMug is gonna call that the Original. That's not their fault; they've gotta use the largest one you give them. I never upload an image that small, unless I totally goofed or uploaded another person's photo for them or whatever. Mine are generally around 3000x2000-ish & so that's what the person will get if they hit the "Download Image" button.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
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