Gallery in more than one folder?

rougetaureau

Sure, I like to be able to collect pictures and show them in more than one gallery.
But what I would really like is to "collect" galleries and make them appear in many folders.
As a location scout, I'd like to be able to assign galleries to projects, and show all galleries specific to a project in one location.
Is this possible?

phototristan

Hi,

We don't quite have this feature. In the New SmugMug however, you could have multiple pages with the same or different mixes of galleries displayed on them however.


Best Regards,

WinsomeWorks

phototristan wrote: »

Hi,

We don't quite have this feature. In the New SmugMug however, you could have multiple pages with the same or different mixes of galleries displayed on them however.


Best Regards,

Could you explain in more detail how to do this? I will be needing this capability when I switch over. I never did understand why entire virtual galleries weren't made (when that feature came out) so that they could simply be virtually placed in another category (now folder I guess) or two, or even more. Instead on Legacy there was the whole time-consuming need to create a new gallery. It would be so excellent if one could just "copy" that entire gallery without setting it all up again, & simply place it in a new category (folder). But Tristan, how would one have "multiple pages with the same or different mixes of galleries displayed on them...." ?

starrynight

I'm wondering how to do this, too -- the equivalent of the legacy feature where multiple galleries could be collected together regardless of which category/subcategory they were in?

I made a page, but didn't know what would happen if I moved a gallery into it in the organizer -- whether that would move the gallery from its original structure.

denisegoldberg

starrynight wrote: »

I'm wondering how to do this, too -- the equivalent of the legacy feature where multiple galleries could be collected together regardless of which category/subcategory they were in?

I made a page, but didn't know what would happen if I moved a gallery into it in the organizer -- whether that would move the gallery from its original structure.

You're not moving the gallery, you are indicating that it should be shown on the specified page.

Placing a gallery on a page does not move it from the folder structure; it simply shows the gallery on that page.

--- Denise

WinsomeWorks

starrynight wrote: »

I'm wondering how to do this, too -- the equivalent of the legacy feature where multiple galleries could be collected together regardless of which category/subcategory they were in?

I made a page, but didn't know what would happen if I moved a gallery into it in the organizer -- whether that would move the gallery from its original structure.

In Legacy though, if we want an entire gallery to show up in a different cat or sub-cat (the NewSmug equivalent to folder) from its original location, we have to completely create a new gallery. Yeah, we can then give it Smart Rules or Collect Photos into it, etc., but the actual Gallery (what I view as the structure or "house" holding those images) isn't really virtual. It's a lot of extra work. I always thought when they introduced Virtual Galleries we'd simply be able to display that gallery under several categories or sub-cats without totally creating another real structure to hold them. In other words, I thought the structure itself could be virtual. But it's not really, on Legacy. A gallery has to be created first, & all its rules applied, etc. before placing its virtual contents in another spot.

In light of all that, & even after reading Denise's description of how you do it, I'm not entirely clear on whether the gallery structure (the house holding the photos) is virtual on NewSmug. I mean, are you now able to skip the step of Creating a Gallery in order to display a bunch of photos in several categories? It sounds like it.... sounds like you simply list it elsewhere as well as in the first folder. But then what happens with stuff like this: In Legacy, we could have a gallery of original photos. But then we can have a gallery filled with virtual copies of those same photos in another category. However, we can still arrange the photos in a virtual gallery (without arranging originals or even other virtual galleries of those same photos that are in other galleries). Does that work, or can that work, in New SmugMug?

denisegoldberg

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

In light of all that, & even after reading Denise's description of how you do it, I'm not entirely clear on whether the gallery structure (the house holding the photos) is virtual on NewSmug.

As I noted in my previous post you simply create a page and place the existing gallery on that page.

You are currently using a large amount of time asking about how things work when you could take a few minutes to try something like this.

This is a simple thing for you to try. I don't understand why you haven't migrated so you can see for yourself. You don't need to expose the new smug to your viewers until you are ready.

--- Denise

WinsomeWorks

denisegoldberg wrote: »

As I noted in my previous post you simply create a page and place the existing gallery on that page.

You are currently using a large amount of time asking about how things work when you could take a few minutes to try something like this.

This is a simple thing for you to try. I don't understand why you haven't migrated so you can see for yourself. You don't need to expose the new smug to your viewers until you are ready.

--- Denise

I did note that I'd seen your previous post about creating a page & placing an existing gallery into it. But like I said, that doesn't tell us what the behavior of that gallery would then be. (more detailed questions about it in 2nd 1/2 of 2nd paragraph in my post). I thought the OP may need to know those details before they'd know whether that method will meet their needs. (especially whether a gallery placed on a page can have be arranged independently of its original gallery, & which other items can be the same or different from the original.) For me it would also be very important to know if the gallery housing the original images is identified differently in any way from the "copy" gallery! In Legacy, this is a problem that I'd had to work around by noting it in the gallery title "V" for the virtual-copy gallery. The reason I myself am working on understanding these details is that I need to figure out what organizational work I need to do or not do in Legacy before I migrate.

As to why I haven't migrated, there are lots of reasons that I've shared in other threads. I do wanna get a NewSmug trial acct, probably in the next week so I can start figuring out some stuff w/o fear of screwing up Legacy. Yes, I know I don't need to Unveil til ready, but to quote my answer in another thread (edits in [ ] ) : "there are... so many issues that would screw up my galleries if I migrate them now [on a site as comprehensive as mine]. I [don't see ways to fix them] once that process starts, because you don't migrate twice...whatever crosses over now & doesn't cross over correctly, isn't going to get fixed when a fix for that particular bug happens, right? Because it'll already be migrated? Fixes rolled out later [for the things I'm concerned about] will only affect the not-yet-migrated galleries. (specifically, the biggest time-consumers would be the ascending/descending problem, which will re-order most of my galleries-- NO THANKS), keywords getting broken in so many ways, Smart Galleries' multiple issues, case-sensitivity issue not yet decided...etc. The ascending/descending thing actually kinda shocks me...that it wasn't thought through first [and so many gallery arrangements would break]...

Just to clarify what I mean about certain fixes that happen later not taking effect on already-migrated galleries: So I have most of my galleries (from what I gather) set with a sort setting that doesn't (yet) exist on NewSmug. I mean, I'll often do an "arrange by filename" (ascending) when I first arrange a gallery. But then I'll go to manual & do tweaks myself. So it sounds like all or most of my already-completed gallery arranging could get borked the second I migrate (in my NewSmug version..hopefully not in my Old version)? So then I'd have to go in & manually re-arrange many galleries. Now, say they roll out a fix that once again makes this option possible; I'd assume they can't or wouldn't implement a fix that would affect already-set migrated galleries. If so, then all those arrangements that people had already done in NewSmug would get messed up.

I have to assume that instead they'll bring a fix that will make that one Legacy setting remain possible in NewSmug so that galleries migrated after the fix won't get borked as they're being borked now. Therefore, wouldn't it make sense to wait 'til after that, rather than spending eons fixing stuff now? If I'm wrong about that, someone explain to me how I'm thinking wrongly about it. I don't mean that sarcastically; I recognize that I could be wrong. But I'm thinking about how other fixes have worked, & how watermarking & other settings work or don't work retroactively... sometimes there's only so far that a "fix" or change can go. If some people have already migrated & arranged & even Unveiled, SmugMug will have to assume those people have already re-arranged their galleries & would be angry at a retroactive fix!

starrynight

This kind of worked for me, except for the problem that newly created galleries end up in smugmug preview in legacy (i've migrated but not unveiled).

I've been fearful of doing those changes that can affect the legacy site (i.e. new galleries, new photos, reorganizations) in the migrated site because I don't want to damage my functioning legacy site.

denisegoldberg wrote: »

You're not moving the gallery, you are indicating that it should be shown on the specified page.

Placing a gallery on a page does not move it from the folder structure; it simply shows the gallery on that page.

--- Denise

WinsomeWorks

starrynight wrote: »

This kind of worked for me, except for the problem that newly created galleries end up in smugmug preview in legacy (i've migrated but not unveiled).

I've been fearful of doing those changes that can affect the legacy site (i.e. new galleries, new photos, reorganizations) in the migrated site because I don't want to damage my functioning legacy site.

That's good to know. Are you able to tell at a glance (in NewSmug) which one is your Original gallery and which is the Virtual (or Smart) gallery? And do you know if you're able to arrange the order of the photos differently in the Smart Gallery than you did in the Original?

mbonocore

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

That's good to know. Are you able to tell at a glance (in NewSmug) which one is your Original gallery and which is the Virtual (or Smart) gallery? And do you know if you're able to arrange the order of the photos differently in the Smart Gallery than you did in the Original?

You can see the Smart Gallery settings by clicking on Gallery Settings ---> Smart

Yes, you can rearrange smart gallery photos in the organizer.

dennismullen

But can you rearrange smart galleries with folders in a folder?
Galleries are forced after folders so you can't always put them in the order you like.
You have to leave the gallery in a folder to do this.
But we do not have the ability to automatically open a gallery if only one is in a folder.
We used to have this feature!

Cheers,