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  • Bryce WilsonBryce Wilson Registered Users Posts: 1,586 Major grins
    edited October 19, 2013
    divamum wrote: »
    It is natural light, but not a window :D. No actual reflector, although something to camera left was (sort of) acting as one. Care to guess the background? (Also re-looking at this reminds me why I hate portrait professional - blah - if he chooses this one I'll redo it as his face is way too plastic for me)

    Is that background the "metal/shiny" side of an insulation panel?
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited October 19, 2013
    Is that background the "metal/shiny" side of an insulation panel?

    Nope.
    Is it some sort of marble or granite? Whatever it is, I wish I had one.


    Muahahahahaha... You probably DO have one!! :D
    The sliders are your friend! Come to the left side Luke...

    And yeah, that was already turned down quite a bit in PP (although clearly not enough) - I think it was sensitivity 3 and master slider on skin was not high at all. I usually like what it does for guys (better than women), but my eyes must've been worn out by the time I clicked "done" on this one rolleyes1.gif)

    As for the light, one source, and only one :D No idea stops of difference - I don't use a handheld lightmeter and didn't have manual control over the intensity of lumens (that's a big hint :giggle)
  • Bryce WilsonBryce Wilson Registered Users Posts: 1,586 Major grins
    edited October 19, 2013
    I'm going to throw one in.

    I have found that ebony folks really need to be lit differently than those of the Caucasian type if you want to make their features "pop". Especially on a solid black backgrounds.

    Here are a couple to play with, both with different lighting setups...

    1

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    Hicks by Bryce Wilson, on Flickr


    2.

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    Hicks by Bryce Wilson, on Flickr

    Note to Diva, these both had PP applied.
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited October 19, 2013
    Two light set up on # 2, plus bg lights. Looks like a big softbox camera left; smaller modifier camera right.

    First one looks like a sort of butterfly setup, given the nose shadow - not sure if camera right fill is light or reflector, but guessing it's a light. Maybe a reflector at his feet to bounce a little light back up?

    And dark/light reverses what is important to our eyes - lighting dark skin is more about highlights than shadows (same is true when doing makeup no dark skin)
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2013
    #1 is light upper left camera right and behind subject down on hat and side of face, main is above and just left of camera with fill either on camera or just right and above and reflector below. That's my guess anyway.
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2013
    divamum wrote: »
    Nope.

    Muahahahahaha... You probably DO have one!! :D

    And yeah, that was already turned down quite a bit in PP (although clearly not enough) - I think it was sensitivity 3 and master slider on skin was not high at all. I usually like what it does for guys (better than women), but my eyes must've been worn out by the time I clicked "done" on this one rolleyes1.gif)

    As for the light, one source, and only one :D No idea stops of difference - I don't use a handheld lightmeter and didn't have manual control over the intensity of lumens (that's a big hint :giggle)

    Ok, I give up on the background but desperately want to know! Natural light coming in from up camera right from under an overhang maybe, with natural surroundings bouncing in from camera left. Possibly concrete walls? Am I detecting an on camera fill flash catch light? Can't tell really.
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2013
    #2 is soft box camera left, fill camera right and kicker behind subject and camera right plus light on background?
  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2013
    dlscott56 wrote: »
    Ok, I give up on the background but desperately want to know! Natural light coming in from up camera right from under an overhang maybe, with natural surroundings bouncing in from camera left. Possibly concrete walls? Am I detecting an on camera fill flash catch light? Can't tell really.

    Here you go!

    We were on my porch. House (light grey) is to camera left, so that's the "reflector". Background was the overgrowth that runs along the fence line between us and the neighbours - it looked too "outdoors" for the look I wanted, so I desaturated the greens and yellows in lightroom (in the end, I took it to nearly nil simply because I preferred the grey to any hint of green).

    Shot on the 5dII with the 70-200 at 70mm, but I was standing pretty close - and the greenery is probably 20ft behind him. No added light - it's just what was coming in from outside; it was about 11.30 am with in-and-out cloud cover (in this one, pretty overcast since there's no obvious sunlight on the green stuff :) )

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  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2013
    divamum wrote: »
    Here you go!

    We were on my porch. House (light grey) is to camera left, so that's the "reflector". Background was the overgrowth that runs along the fence line between us and the neighbours - it looked too "outdoors" for the look I wanted, so I desaturated the greens and yellows in lightroom (in the end, I took it to nearly nil simply because I preferred the grey to any hint of green).

    Shot on the 5dII with the 70-200 at 70mm, but I was standing pretty close - and the greenery is probably 20ft behind him. No added light - it's just what was coming in from outside; it was about 11.30 am with in-and-out cloud cover (in this one, pretty overcast since there's no obvious sunlight on the green stuff :) )


    Awesome. I can see it with the color in tact. Very cool effect having taken the greens and yellows out. Makes it into something 'I can't quite put my finger on'. It's the mystery of 'how'd they do that' that we all want in our photos. Really nice Diva, and I love the lighting!
  • Bryce WilsonBryce Wilson Registered Users Posts: 1,586 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2013
    dlscott56 wrote: »
    #2 is soft box camera left, fill camera right and kicker behind subject and camera right plus light on background?

    Nailed it except for the reflector directly in front and under the subject. You can see a bit of it in his eyes.
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