New Gallery showing on old site

hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
edited September 28, 2013 in SmugMug Support
I thought the whole point of NOT unveiling the new site was that it didnt affect the old LIVE site at all So how come when I created a new gallery in the organiser for the new UNVEILED site that its showed up on my old live site called "Smug Preview" and also the new images for this gallery showed up under recent photos on my old site as well! Really annoyed over this!!!

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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2013
    You only have one content that shows on both old and new. Any new galleries and pages created
    on NewSmug do not have the paths that old Smug understands so they are all put in that "Smug Preview"
    folder (category on old). That's why I do all my content changes on old Smug before I unveil.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 17, 2013
    Ok but i thought the whole point was that you could do what you like on the new without affecting the old at all.
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2013
    I found it in your old Smug, where did you want it to go in the old Smug? In a specific category?
    On old Smug every gallery has to be in a category so they just put these in the "Smug Preview"
    category. Remember you only have one content, "your photos", and both new and old use that
    with different display formatting and customization.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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  • AperturePlusAperturePlus Registered Users Posts: 374 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2013
    As Allen mentioned, it is the same site - it is just the 'look' that is different. If you upload to the 'new' site, you are still uploading to the old site as they are one and the same.

    Likewise, if you create a gallery or folder, it will appear on the legacy site, being the same site.

    You can do what you like, in terms of the look of the site, which won't change anything on the legacy site. I hope that clears things up for you?
  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2013
    Edited my last post
    You only have one content/database of photos, and both new and old use that
    with different display formatting and customization.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
    My Website index | My Blog
  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 18, 2013
    Ok Thanks I understand now. My next problem is, and this could quite possibly be a bug, is when I'm choosing which Folders to display on the browse page in the Folders settings box, with the "Folders | Choose" setting it shows those folders on the site but when i click on the folder to display the galleries nothing happens.
  • mbonocorembonocore Registered Users Posts: 2,299 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2013
    Ok Thanks I understand now. My next problem is, and this could quite possibly be a bug, is when I'm choosing which Folders to display on the browse page in the Folders settings box, with the "Folders | Choose" setting it shows those folders on the site but when i click on the folder to display the galleries nothing happens.

    Since you are using a "Folders" content block, only folders are selectable. Try using the "Folders, Pages, Galleries" content block if you wish to use a combination of folders and galleries.
  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 19, 2013
    That doesnt work either. The only way i can get it to work like the old site is to use "Current Location " or "Top Level Folders" but that displays all my folders .
  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 26, 2013
    Just going back to changing the "look" of the site on the new Smug, I noticed that it DOES AFFECT the look of the old site. I changed the gallery styles to Collage Landscape and guess what my old site changes as well. Lucky im nearly ready to unveil. but what smugmug is telling us is complete B@%!&
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 26, 2013
    Just going back to changing the "look" of the site on the new Smug, I noticed that it DOES AFFECT the look of the old site. I changed the gallery styles to Collage Landscape and guess what my old site changes as well. Lucky im nearly ready to unveil. but what smugmug is telling us is complete B@%!&
    Since I've gotta go through this soon... what changed in your Legacy site when you changed gallery styles to "Collage" on the New site? Curious because collage landscape doesn't really exist on Legacy, so i wonder what it changed to...
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  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 27, 2013
    Hi Anna Lisa,
    The layout changed from the default smugmug style to having the thumbnails all across the page, which according to all the videos from smugmug this should not have happened. Still at least its easier than having to upload loads of images to fine art america ;)
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 27, 2013
    Hi Anna Lisa,
    The layout changed from the default smugmug style to having the thumbnails all across the page, which according to all the videos from smugmug this should not have happened. Still at least its easier than having to upload loads of images to fine art america ;)
    Ahh, OK, thanks for that answer. Good grief, this didn't happen to all of your galleries, did it? If that happens to me with my hundreds of galleries, it would be a huge mess. Ackk... Anyway, ahh, so you're on FAA too? I am as well, & I know what you mean with the work it takes to upload there (only because each image needs a lot of decisions made, not because the upload itself isn't easy). But hey, depending what kinds of imagery you've got, I'd keep doing both.

    I should add a lot more to my FAA site, because I've made quite a few sales there, and it's great to have a spot that I can sell matted, framed, & canvas works as well as the rest. Since since they don't crop your work, & people have lots of choices of frames & mats, it gives many options that aren't available for your work elsewhere. Once you've uploaded, you don't really have to do a thing. I think a best-case scenario is to put some of your best work there (and/or what you think may sell the easiest) even while you're still uploading here a lot. It's two somewhat separate worlds, but they both have their excellent purposes. It's sometimes surprising what sells the most, though... Well, good luck with getting your site set up!
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 27, 2013
    That doesnt work either. The only way i can get it to work like the old site is to use "Current Location " or "Top Level Folders" but that displays all my folders .
    Ooops sorry to go off on a tangent in that last post. I just realized you still need answers to some of your questions!! Hope someone will take a look at your problem & help out.
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
    DayBreak, my Folk Music Group (some free mp3s!) http://daybreakfolk.com
  • hojphotographyhojphotography Registered Users Posts: 59 Big grins
    edited September 27, 2013
    Hiya A.L. I'm actually nearly there with my new site having finally got my brain to work with the new system, plus with a lot of help from people here. Im racing now to get it all done. I do actually like a good bit of the new look it is a lot more modern when you compare the two. One of the other reasons i decided to go with smug is the final product ie the print. The paper i choose is Kodaks Endura paper because at the end of the day FAA really only print onto inkjets, whereas Kodaks paper is actual photographic paper very similar to the Ilfochrome paper i used to print on when i worked in a pro lab about 10 years ago handprinting from transparencies.
  • migreenmigreen Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited September 28, 2013
    I don't have an answer. However, I want to share just a bit about my own conversion experience.

    Like others, I wanted to play in the alleged sandbox for a while before unveiling. But I found that the old setup was affected much more be the sandboxed tdesign than the (very incomplete) sm documentation called out. It was impossible to find out wHat effects there would be withou trying it, observing the unwanted effects, and contacting the heroes, who were sometimes candid, sometimes evasive, and sometimes clueless.

    As a result, I decided to unveil early, reasoning that it was tough enough to deal with new design issues without having to constantly be watching for weirdness in the old, but still live, site, which was after all what my clients were seeing. This has led to a fairly tense experience, since it's my busiest time of year.

    So yes , Virginia, your legacy site will indeed be affected by what goes on in the sandbox, more than you've been led to expect. Heads up!
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