Question(s) about what appears in a breadcrumb.

ghealy

I'm having issues trying to get my new unveiled Smugmug site to mimic my Legacy set-up. I have seen some of the unveiled sites that seem to have what I want, but I'm a bit confused as to where to start. So please bear with me as I ask some questions to help me better understand how I might proceed.


First some background: (Or what I understand of structure in both old and new Smugmug)
In the legacy version, we had Categories, Sub Categories and Galleries.
- A Category could contain one to many sub-categories as well as a number of galleries.
- A Sub-category could contain one or more galleries.
- A Gallery typically contained one or more photos/videos, but could also only contain text/html,

Typical breadcrumb consists of Home --> Category --> Sub-Category --> Gallery

One of the marvelous Customization/Modification Wizards came up with a hack (custom code) that allowed us to create a -- for lack of a better name -- page (Galleries) that contained all top level categories, and made this page the default start of the breadcrumb, i.e Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013. (Where Photography is a category, Flowers is a sub-category and Flowers 2013 is a gallery. If one clicked on 'Galleries' in the breadcrumb, you were then brought back to the page that had all your categories.

This the way I have my legacy site structured. This no longer works because that special code was done in the not allowed Java script.

In the new version of Smugmug we have folders, pages and galleries.
- A Folder can contain other folders, pages and galleries
- A Page can contain folders, other pages and galleries
- Galleries typically contained one or more photos/videos.

My first question is: is what I have written regarding the structure in the new version correct?

Do all three elements (Folder/Page/Gallery) appear in the breadcrumb?

If I was to create a Folder for each of my current categories, and populate each folder with new folders that would correspond to the related sub-categoires. Then populate each of the sub-category folders with their related galleries, would I then duplicate my legacy structure of Category, Sub-category, galleries.

And in that structure, could I then create a page titled 'Galleries' and populate it with all the folders I created for each of my Categories?

And would the breadcrumb then read as follows if I was in the Flowers 2013 gallery?

Home --> Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013

(On my new version site, the word home is replaced by a house icon.)

I have seen a customization that will hide the home icon in the breadcrumb. If I was to apply that customization, would I then end up with a breadcrumb that would read: Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013?

I guess the really important question is will a Page at the highest level show up in the bread crumb?


Thank you for your patience. And I appreciate any and all comments/suggestions, etc.

Allen

I think you could create a top level folder and name it something like "MyGalleries". On this folder page add a folder
content block. Insert all your "category folders" in this. From here the flow down will be like legacy as each folder is
clicked it'll open its "category" folder. Then down to sub-cats. Then galleries.

The breadcrumb should show this path.
Home > MyGalleries > folder (cat name) > folder (sub-cat name) > gallery name

Jtring

You are very, very close. Your description of the structure is correct, with the addition that you can have more folder nesting: sort of the equivalent of sub-sub-categories and sub-sub-sub categories. The whole chain, down wherever you are, can show on the breadcrumb. The one change needed from what you have written is that rather than create a bunch of folders corresponding to your old categories and a make a page to point at each of them, you put the category folders into a containing folder, which you could then label "Galleries". Then pop whatever content boxes you want into the web page associated with the Galleries "super-folder" to set up the navigation. Pages, alas, do not show up as intermediate steps in in breadcrumbs.

Jim Ringland
jtringl.smugmug.com

Wendee

Hi Gene,

The Browse page replaces the Galleries page hack from the Legacy SmugMug. Browse can contain all of your folders/galleries/pages or only those you select, it gives you many options for customization.

Browse isn't included in the breadcrumb. If you create a Page that lists your folders, that page is not listed in the breadcrumb once the viewers enter a folder or gallery.

I used the Galleries page hack in Legacy, and I've created a Galleries page that lists my folders and is displayed in my menu. Viewers can navigate through the folders to galleries and use the breadcrumb to back through the folders, or click the Galleries button in the menu to return to the full list of folders.

If you need anything else, please let us know.


Wendee
SmugMug Support Hero
http://help.smugmug.com/

ghealy

Appreciate the suggestions and advise. Thanks.

The structure I proposed in my original post will not achieve what I want because I used a 'Page' instead of a 'Folder'.

So if I am understanding correctly, I should be able to: Create a Folder called 'Galleries. --> Populate this folder with all my main category folders. Using the structure I mentioned above, I should then have a breadcrumb that would read: Home --> Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013

If I then use the CSS customization code to hide that home icon, I should have a Breadcrumb that reads: Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013?

And if I rename the Browse in my menu bar to 'Galleries' and point it to the link to my "Galleries' folder, should this not mimic the Galleries page hack in the Legacy version?

ChancyRat

I am struggling to understand the breadth and depth of site organization. Would someone also comment on the homepage? All the comments so far omit the homepage. Why? or, where does it go, or get named? Thanks.

Jtring

Hi Chancy,

In the style we've been writing about, the homepage becomes an opening splash page. I have one big background picture plus a sidebar with a logo, a menu, and about 30 words of introductory text. Other folks do menu + slideshow. Probably all sorts of other combinations.

Jim Ringland
jtringl.smugmug.com

ghealy

Hi, Chancy.

I, like Jim, use the "homepage" as my Opening Page containing a slideshow as well as navigation/Menu. Once in the site, a viewer can return to this (as Jim called it) Splash page by clicking Home in the menu. But otherwise I want them to return to a page (which in the New Smugmug must be a folder so it can show up in the breadcrumb trail) to see all my main categories or folders as they are now called. You can see my legacy set-up from the link in my signature. I am presently about 85% there with the new version.

ChancyRat

So in this scenario:

So if I am understanding correctly, I should be able to: Create a Folder called 'Galleries. --> Populate this folder with all my main category folders. Using the structure I mentioned above, I should then have a breadcrumb that would read: Home --> Galleries --> Photography --> Flowers --> Flowers 2013

The "Create a Folder called 'Galleries" can be the home page, right?
All the remaining sublayers can be applied when using the homepage as the lead landing page?

Allen

ChancyRat wrote: »

So in this scenario:



The "Create a Folder called 'Galleries" can be the home page, right?
All the remaining sublayers can be applied when using the homepage as the lead landing page?

Go to the organizer
highlight your name top left
click create above
in drop click folder (name it galleries or MyGalleries)
Find it at bottom of right window
double click
click done upper right
now on folder page
customize > customize site
in content in right flyout click "make this folder custom"
hightlight "just this folder"
Add a folders block from content below under "navigation" drop
under the new folder block's wrench set what you want in the block
If you use "I choose" you will be able to browse to all your legacy categories and add them.

ChancyRat

Allen wrote: »

Go to the organizer
highlight your name top left
click create above
in drop click folder (name it galleries or MyGalleries)
Find it at bottom of right window
double click
click done upper right
now on folder page
customize > customize site
in content in right flyout click "make this folder custom"
hightlight "just this folder"
Add a folders block from content below under "navigation" drop
under the new folder block's wrench set what you want in the block
If you use "I choose" you will be able to browse to all your legacy categories and add them.

Thank you Allen, but then this gallery is not the home page. One could add the content blocks as you describe but do it on the home page as well. In fact if you use the customization code, you can create a visitor sitemap menu this way (eliminating the thumbnails and leaving just the gallery names.)

I think I'm understanding that the method being described here is in order to leave the homepage as just a splash page, and in effect "relocating" the usual folders/galleries content, to another folder, as you described making it.

ghealy

ChancyRat wrote: »

I think I'm understanding that the method being described here is in order to leave the homepage as just a splash page, and in effect "relocating" the usual folders/galleries content, to another folder, as you described making it.

That's exactly what I'm after. It is how I have my legacy set up and what I am hoping to be able to finalize with my New Smugmug site.