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70D Day 1 very impressed !
As some of you know I have been a student on here for a couple years .I mainly hang out in the sports section as Hockey is by far the most challenging thing I shoot. I have been fortunate enough to get advice over that time frame from some top shelf shooters on here .Of course my dream lens was the 70-200 2.8 L ,I managed to pick one up this summer used (non is) .I had planned on the 7D as well but the 70D had me reconsidering .After posting the question on here between the two (and others) my wife kept tabs on where I was leaning .Well I got the 70D for Christmas ! Coming from a T2i I seemed to be just starting to nail down my hockey shots to my satisfaction(see peewee thread in sports) well I must say using the 70D today shooting 6 year olds in the poorest lit rink I shoot in ,this thing is heads and shoulders above the t2i everywhere! I try to shoot at 1600 iso to keep the noise manageable in PP (cs5 C-raw) I shot today at 3200 with no need to hardly correct anything .I have not went through the manual yet but just set it similar to what I set the t2i at and went from there . From what I read I did not expect it to be a whole lot better , but I am convince it is ! If anyone is thinking of moving up do it You will not be disappointed :ivar
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Could you post some shots that you took at ISO 1600 and 3200 here on dgrin and leave a link here in this thread, so folks can see for themselves what the 70D will do?
I am sure there are lots of folks who are wondering if the 70D really is a good 7D replacement, or offers lower noise high ISO images than the 7D.
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I'm not sure if this is the kind of comparison that you were looking for, but I'll put it out there.
I was playing around with iso 12800 while shooting in raw+jpg.
So you can see the difference somewhat of a straight from the camera file to a processed one.
Full sized here : LINK
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ISO 12800 file from a crop body camera that looks that good, is quite impressive to me, and significantly better than the 7D to my eye.
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Yes, Dave, those are extremely nice results for an ISO 12,800 file from a crop body.
Pathfinder, the Canon 6D and 70D seem to be a major leap ahead of previous Canon bodies when you use Adobe RAW conversion.
For older bodies I greatly recommend Capture One to process the RAW files instead of Adobe products. It's like Canon and Adobe stopped cooperating for a period of time and the noise signature of Adobe RAW conversion struggled at either high-ISOs or under-exposed and pushed images. Capture One yields much better control over banding and pattern noise in those circumstances, by my testing.
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This is what conclusions I came up with.
Let me say first, this shot was made by shooting in raw and jpg modes.
Iso is at 6400.
This is with the Canon 70D with the 18-135 kit lens.
I used standard picture style set at 4,0,1,0
NR was set to high.
White Balance on auto.
On the raw shot, in ACR I set the NR at 40. That seemed to balance the shots out a bit.
There is some color difference between the two shots because of these settings.
I put them both into CS6, copied 1/2 of the jpg file and pasted it onto the raw image, then flattened it.
I also reduced the size to 1200x800. It's just easier to show what I was seeing at full size.
So here's what I see.
If you need to change/adjust the color of your high ISO shot, you want to use the raw file.
If you need to up the sharpness, the jpg takes those changes much better.
No sharpening.
Unsharpen mask
Note the increase in the noise on the raw side.
On to saturation.
none.
up 55%
Note the blotchy spots that appear on the jpg side.
(when I reduced the saturation the blotches appeared than also)
So, when shooting high ISO's which way would you go? Raw, or jpg?
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I don't have a 70D but RAW is the way to go, from there you can do selective sharpening, noise reduction or anything
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
I've used raw before, but not very often. I rarely have the need.
A few from the 70D. (all jpg's)
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It's all the camera, I just point and click the shutter.
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The higher iso's, the 7 shots/sec made it worthwhile for me.
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