D200 tests - noise
wholenewlight
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Not my tests unfortunately.
http://imageevent.com/pmattf/d200d70iso
D200 ISO 1600 doesn't look much different (when viewed at "original") than D70. ISO 3200 doesn't look too bad - a little noisy in the shadow areas. I want to see a 5D test comparo.
ISO 100 looks pretty sweet but might just be the new sensor and not a better noise issue.
And one more thing . . . To say that Ken Rockwell likes the D200 would be a gross understatement!
His review: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm
http://imageevent.com/pmattf/d200d70iso
D200 ISO 1600 doesn't look much different (when viewed at "original") than D70. ISO 3200 doesn't look too bad - a little noisy in the shadow areas. I want to see a 5D test comparo.
ISO 100 looks pretty sweet but might just be the new sensor and not a better noise issue.
And one more thing . . . To say that Ken Rockwell likes the D200 would be a gross understatement!
His review: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm
john w
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Here is a 200D vs 5D comparision.
I did look at the portrait of the young girl ( now why did I choose THAT image to evaluate??!!) and I think they are hard to compare as the lighting seems slightly more contrasty in the 5D image than the D200. Not a great difference in grain to my eye - but I did not evaluate it at 300% - just eyeballed the original jpgs that came down the line from Japan. Maybe the Nikon lens was a tad sharper than the Canon 24-105 - maayybee?? Hard to tell for sure.
I'll be interested to hear what other's think in this regard.
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Didn't Google translate most of it?
I am really getting a little bummed out by Canon getting left behind with some of the newer Nikon lens offerings. The 200/2.0 VR, 200-400/4(fixed 4), 1.7 Tele converter, just to name a few. When is Canon coming out with some new glass and a new 20D to fire back at the D200?
A 200 f2.0 with IS would be cool, I agree. And I have envied the Nikonians their 1.7 TCs from the get go.
The arguments about whether FF or reduced sensor size will prevail are interesting as I own both FF and APS Canon bodies. I really don't usually think of one as dramatically better than the other ( the 20D really is THAT good ) - but which shoots wider with a lens and which shoots longer with a tele too. The 1 Series Canons do defintely focus dramatically better than the 5D or the 20D though. That said, they're all fine tools if you know what they are best at.
Do you think Nikon plans to omit FF forever or not?:):
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I don't see it anytime soon.
I do hope that Canon sticks with the three sensor sizes. I think that is a definite advantage to be able to broaden your lens selection with a different body. When I need that longer lens I will most likely first pay for a 20D, then later the long glass.
Canon 5D (ISO 3200)
Nikon D200 (ISO 3200, no noise reduction)
Nikon D200 (ISO 3200; normal noise reduction)
Erich
I agree the noise seems much more film like - less noise in the color channels - Interesting. Much more color noise in this 5D frame. Hmmmm
It is certainly going to make for a good horserace.:):
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For the time being, those shots looked like a pretty good comparison, as far as image quality goes, unless they were severely manipulated, which I'm not assuming. I'm just being realistic, the 5D probably is quite a bit better than the D200, in fact I should hope it is since it's it's over $1000 more costly.
Now regarding the D70 VS D200 test:
I took the higher ISO shots and put them all in PS as different layers, and then duplicated the image. With one image I interpolated the D70 files to the D200's resolution, and with the other image I down-sampled the D200 files to match the D70's resolution. This I decided was the best way to compare them both. In both scenarios, it is easy to see that the D200 indeed has a considerable advantage in high ISO peformance.
However, this would not be a reason for me to buy the D200. Why?
I've already come to terms with the fact that Canon's high ISO performance is better, plain and simple, and probably always will be. However high ISO shooting is not my passion or pasttime, it is simply something I do to make money. If I ever decide that a D200 just didn't cut it in the high ISO department, I would just get a 350D and a Sigma 70-200 f/2.8, and use my $0 monopod (made from a severed tripod leg) as my $1200 image stabilization. I have a knack for "making do" with seemingly un-professional solutions like that, plain and simple. (And you should see how cheap those "non DG" versions are going for, man it's robbery!)
This way I can forego Canon's pro ergonomics that don't work for me, but get 8 MP of sweet ISO 1600 performance that I could probably "push" to 3200 and still get better results than my D70 at 1600, especially with CS2's stellar color noise reduction tool.
In fact, ironically I might be getting a 350D sometime soon because my D70 just died. (I dropped it, now the LCD in the viewfinder flickers and the light meter has gone haywire) As much as I'd like to use this as an excuse to get a D200, I do not have that kind of money. And, the best camera for me to shoot with to re-coup it's cost as quickly as possible by doing events at high ISO would be the 350D, of course. Ironic that a lot of the parents of these kids probably have a 350D, I should just borrow theirs! But that would be a mite strange and un-professional, methinks.
Well, I'm off to Nikon Torrance now, wish me luck! I'm expecting the worst, though. Canon, here I come?? Good grief...
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