Date Taken Problems

galla47galla47 Registered Users Posts: 100 Major grins
edited December 23, 2005 in SmugMug Support
Hey,

I was hoping someone could help me out with a problem I'm having.

I scanned a bunch of old slides and manually assigned a Date Taken. After I uploaded them to Smugmug, I set the gallery to sort by Date Taken, and they are all out of order.

Another thing funny is that the EXIF link is missing from under the picture. I can view it by using the http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID= link, and can see the Date Taken, but it is missing from the gallery. I turned off all themes and customizations to rule out a CSS problem

The dates go back as far as the 1950s. Is there some sort of cutoff?

I can PM anyone the gallery link, but I would rather not post it. An example EXIF info is : http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=49081816

Anyone have any thoughts?

-KG

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2005
    galla47 wrote:
    Hey,

    I was hoping someone could help me out with a problem I'm having.

    I scanned a bunch of old slides and manually assigned a Date Taken. After I uploaded them to Smugmug, I set the gallery to sort by Date Taken, and they are all out of order.

    Another thing funny is that the EXIF link is missing from under the picture. I can view it by using the http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID= link, and can see the Date Taken, but it is missing from the gallery. I turned off all themes and customizations to rule out a CSS problem

    The dates go back as far as the 1950s. Is there some sort of cutoff?

    I can PM anyone the gallery link, but I would rather not post it. An example EXIF info is : http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=49081816

    Anyone have any thoughts?

    -KG

    I will bring this to the engineers' attention - can't promise how long it will be for them to look at it - I suspect it has to do with how you are entering the exif date vs. how the exif date is reported by today's cameras - so give us a little time and we'll see what we come up with, okay?

    Thanks.
    Andy

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  • galla47galla47 Registered Users Posts: 100 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2005
    Great... thanks for the help!

    I used ACDsee 8 to enter the EXIF date, if that helps you out at all.

    -KG
  • onethumbonethumb Administrators Posts: 1,269 Major grins
    edited December 22, 2005
    galla47 wrote:
    Hey,

    I was hoping someone could help me out with a problem I'm having.

    I scanned a bunch of old slides and manually assigned a Date Taken. After I uploaded them to Smugmug, I set the gallery to sort by Date Taken, and they are all out of order.

    Another thing funny is that the EXIF link is missing from under the picture. I can view it by using the http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID= link, and can see the Date Taken, but it is missing from the gallery. I turned off all themes and customizations to rule out a CSS problem

    The dates go back as far as the 1950s. Is there some sort of cutoff?

    I can PM anyone the gallery link, but I would rather not post it. An example EXIF info is : http://www.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=49081816

    Anyone have any thoughts?

    -KG

    Alas, this is a fundamental computer problem.

    Basically, in the computer world, time "began" on January 1, 1970 (at least for Unix). Any dates prior to that are assumed not to exist. Strange and silly, I know, but that's the way it is. So your dates prior to 1970 are probably confusing our software and servers.

    It shouldn't be too hard to solve, but will probably be difficult to integrate into our software since we use date & time all over the place.

    Anyway, we're aware of the issue now, thank to you, and I'll see what we can do. I can almost guarantee it won't happen all that soon, but we'll see.

    Sorry, wish I had a better answer for you. :(

    Don
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,986 moderator
    edited December 23, 2005
    onethumb wrote:
    Alas, this is a fundamental computer problem.

    Basically, in the computer world, time "began" on January 1, 1970 (at least for Unix). Any dates prior to that are assumed not to exist.


    Don
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  • tibutibu Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited December 23, 2005
    That is not the olny problem
    For similar reasons, by year 2008 the way UNIX computers store date will have a big problem, a bit similar to the Y2K bug

    http://www.gsp.com/2038/

    Carlos
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  • galla47galla47 Registered Users Posts: 100 Major grins
    edited December 23, 2005
    I guess I got kinda lucky. Before I started uploading, I renamed all the files with a counter starting with the earliest picture. So, sorting them by file name has pretty much the same effect as date taken. I just wanted date taken to work so that I could add more files "in the middle" so to speak.

    Thanks for looking into it!

    -KG
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