CANON 50MM/F1.0 LENS... (CraigsList Seattle)

SeymoreSeymore Banned Posts: 1,539 Major grins
edited December 29, 2005 in Cameras
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    Seymore wrote:

    :nah I can wait for the 50 f/1.2 that's rumored :D

    Thanks Seymore!
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    Andy wrote:
    :nah I can wait for the 50 f/1.2 that's rumored :D

    Thanks Seymore!


    and just how long will we have to wait? ear.gif:D
  • John MuellerJohn Mueller Registered Users Posts: 2,555 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    Slobering on myself1drink.gif
  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    All I can say is wow....:jawdrop
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited December 28, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Andy, did you see my pictures of the 50mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2 Zuicko's? -



    I don't understand the significance of the filter diameter size. I didn't think the front element was the limiting aperture on these lenses....
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  • erich6erich6 Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Andy, did you see my pictures of the 50mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2 Zuicko's? -

    http://www.dgrin.com/153874-post50.html

    I don't understand the significance of the filter diameter size. I didn't think the front element was the limiting aperture on these lenses....
  • erich6erich6 Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    APS vs. Full-format
    Do you suppose this new "fast" prime will be an EF-S lens?

    Photobug brought up the point (in Andy's link) that it's easier to make a good quality fast lens for an APS-sized sensor than a full format. That makes sense to me because you have less likelyhood of vignetting, stray light, and aberrations at the edges of the frame.

    Many have argued that "full-format" (35 mm) is a better way to go because you get more angle of view and larger pixels (or more!) with better dynamic range. Well, with CMOS technology improving continously, it seems that a smaller sensor will eventually give you a good enough dynamic range and allow you to have larger aperture long lenses that are smaller and lighter than their full-frame equivalent would be. I think many would take higher optical quality, lighter, and smaller lenses over extended dynamic range.....

    Erich
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    erich6 wrote:
    Do you suppose this new "fast" prime will be an EF-S lens?

    No - EF, L. deal.gif
  • erich6erich6 Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    Andy wrote:
    No - EF, L. deal.gif

    Ooops! missed the "L" reference! 11doh.gif
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited December 28, 2005
    erich6 wrote:
    I don't understand the significance of the filter diameter size. I didn't think the front element was the limiting aperture on these lenses....

    I wasn't suggesting that the filter size was limiting factor - just that both the 1.4 and 1.2 shared the same size 49mm filters, to demonstrate how little difference there really is between the two lenses.

    50mm/f1.2= 41.6666 mm front aprature

    50mm/f1.4= 35.7mm front aperature
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  • erich6erich6 Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    I wasn't suggesting that the filter size was limiting factor - just that both the 1.4 and 1.2 shared the same size 49mm filters, to demonstrate how little difference there really is between the two lenses.

    50mm/f1.2= 41.6666 mm front aprature

    50mm/f1.4= 35.7mm front aperature

    Got it. Thanks! thumb.gif
  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,250 moderator
    edited December 29, 2005
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  • Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited December 29, 2005
    Okay guys, pardon my Canon-dumbness, but on KEH I see Canon FD 50mm f/1.2 FD lenses for $140 or $225, and f/1.2 L FD lenses for "only" $500. Is there any desirability with either of these lenses? Despite the fact that you have to use an adapter and then manual focus which is probably impossible with an f/1.2 lens on a 1.6x cropped viewfinder...

    Any ideas?

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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,250 moderator
    edited December 29, 2005
    Okay guys, pardon my Canon-dumbness, but on KEH I see Canon FD 50mm f/1.2 FD lenses for $140 or $225, and f/1.2 L FD lenses for "only" $500. Is there any desirability with either of these lenses? Despite the fact that you have to use an adapter and then manual focus which is probably impossible with an f/1.2 lens on a 1.6x cropped viewfinder...
    Any ideas?
    -Matt-

    Despite the lure of 1.0's, 1.2's and even an f/0.95 (yes, there was such an animal), using an adaptor will limit your focus range meaning you'll either give up focusing at infinity, or at the closer setting (I forget which). Older lenses did not focus beyond infinity as the newer auto lenses do. The lack of both autofocus and autoaperture control might not bother some shooters, but there have been significant advances in lens materials, reduction of weight and volume not to mention ergonomics. Then there's the fact that what you're really bargaining for is less than one stop of light difference.

    Not trying to totally disuade anyone from mounting these antiques with converters on EF setups, but sheesh! I mean, these admittingly marvelous lenses would be better paired with their old friends -- the F-1, AE-1 or A-1 -- to better complete the novelty. Then scan the results.

    I have a 50 f/1.4 FD (for my 1978 AT-1), and it just wasn't that good compared with a modern (and ultra cheap) EF 50 f/1.8. The FD lens is destined to be used again for only one reason... to reverse mount it for macros with an adaptor ring.

    If you have one of these old classics in your closet, then by all means yes, try it. But I wouldn't go out and spend a couple hundred bucks on one to experiment with.
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