Reserved words

BigRedBigRed Registered Users Posts: 288 Major grins
edited October 12, 2015 in SmugMug Support
Are there any reserved words in New Smugmug (folder/gallery/page names, keywords, etc.)? If so, are they documented somewhere? For example, could I name a root folder "Galleries" or "Photo Galleries" (initial caps)?
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  • denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,383 moderator
    edited September 21, 2015
    I believe the SmugMug system pages all start with lower-case letters. For a list, see http://school.smugmug.com/SmugMug-Tips/Customize-Your-System-Pages. These pages will only open using the lower-case starting letter.

    While our folder and gallery names are forced to start with an upper-case letter, typing the url with the lower-case letter works as long as you aren't using the same word as a system page. For example, http://www.denisegoldberg.com/Kaleidoscope and http://www.denisegoldberg.com/kaleidoscope take the viewer to the same page.

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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,013 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2015
    There are a few system pages. lower case all
    /popular
    /search
    /keyword
    /date
    etc.

    In Old Smug there were some default category names but not in NewSmug
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  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    Denise and Allen nailed it .. as always, they're so quick and correct!
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    It would be nice to see the exact list of all the reserved words. The OP asked if there was a complete list somewhere.
    leftquark wrote: »
    Denise and Allen nailed it .. as always, they're so quick and correct!
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  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    WinsomeWorks wrote: »
    It would be nice to see the exact list of all the reserved words. The OP asked if there was a complete list somewhere.

    As Denise pointed out, all galleries names start with an Uppercase letter. Anything "reserved", SmugMug includes with a lowercase. In other words: there are no reserved words since we take care of it by the case of the first letter.

    Additionally, our help pages, also as Denise linked, are usually the best resource to go to for things like this!
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  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    Right, but we'd still like to know what they are so far, because most of us would like to avoid using those words in our titles so that there's never confusion over upper / lower case. Does this mean that FB (etc) links back to galleries that originally had lowercase beginning letters (especially if they contain now-reserved words) are broken? (I'm talking about if we did the "Publish to FB" option using Old Smug in which we chose the link-back to go to the original gallery rather than each original photo).
    leftquark wrote: »
    As Denise pointed out, all galleries names start with an Uppercase letter. Anything "reserved", SmugMug includes with a lowercase. In other words: there are no reserved words since we take care of it by the case of the first letter.

    Additionally, our help pages, also as Denise linked, are usually the best resource to go to for things like this!
    Anna Lisa Yoder's Images - http://winsomeworks.com ... Handmade Photo Notecards: http://winsomeworks.etsy.com ... Framed/Matted work: http://anna-lisa-yoder.artistwebsites.com/galleries.html ... Scribbles: http://winsomeworks.blogspot.com
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  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    WinsomeWorks wrote: »
    Right, but we'd still like to know what they are so far

    Please see the help page that Denise posted above. I don't want to copy and paste the Help page because information on DGrin can become stale or old. The help pages always contain the most up to date information.
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  • phaserbeamphaserbeam Registered Users Posts: 452 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    leftquark wrote: »
    Please see the help page that Denise posted above. I don't want to copy and paste the Help page because information on DGrin can become stale or old. The help pages always contain the most up to date information.

    This list is not complete :D

    There is another reserved keyword not yet listed on the help page: customize

    I can create a gallery or folder named like Customize. Because of Uppergate (URLS are Upper/lower case sensitive...) if someone vistis url/Customize he will see the photos but if he types url/customize (lower case 'C') he will not be redirected to the correct URL (see the example from denisegoldberg), he will see the smugmug website instead.

    The redirection is just a workaround because it only works for the first letter. Means real url/KaleidoScope is different to url/kaleidoscope and does not even match url/Kaleidoscope.

    I don't really care at the moment, i have shut down my whole site. But maybe SmugMug want to add customize to the list of reserved keywords/URLs.
  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    As each of you has pointed out, using URL's are case sensitive. The fact that we force all of your galleries to have an uppercase letter means that there are no official reserved words. You can use all of the words that we use and those will work just fine, though your visitors, if they're manually typing in the URL, will need to make sure they are case sensitive.
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  • phaserbeamphaserbeam Registered Users Posts: 452 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    leftquark wrote: »
    You can use all of the words that we use and those will work just fine, though your visitors, if they're manually typing in the URL, will need to make sure they are case sensitive.

    Well.. this will bring us back to the old discussion about case sensitive URLs...

    Right now i can type kaleidoscope instead of the correct URL Kaleidoscope (see example from denise) but this does not work for Customize. Without the SmugMug workaround for the first letter this would be true, visitors need to type the correct URL... but with the workaround using lower case c for customize would not redirect me to the correct URL but would redirect me for the kaleidoscope example.
  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited September 22, 2015
    There may be more, but here's a pretty good list of folder or gallery names that will not redirect properly if a user enters a lowercase first letter:

    date
    keyword
    password
    popular
    search
    browse
    customize
    organize
    client
    sales
    homepage
    settings
    login
    logout
    help
    prints
    about
    dashboard
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  • BigRedBigRed Registered Users Posts: 288 Major grins
    edited October 12, 2015
    OK, so I avoided all the reserved words. But it appears that the lower-case-redirect-to-upper-case-URL only works with GALLERY names -- not FOLDERS. For example, http://www.janicebrowne.com/photo-galleries hits my (customized) 404 page instead of http://www.janicebrowne.com/Photo-Galleries. Is this a bug?

    From this 2014 thread:
    rainforest1155 wrote: »
    ...If there is no system page by the same url, we'll redirect to the user folder, gallery or page. So to go with your example:
    /local-Events
    would go to:
    /Local-Events

    CORRECTION: The redirect seems to work with galleries, folders, and pages equally. What confused me originally is that only the first letter of the name is modified (which is the only letter that must be capitalized in the actual name/URL). The rest of the "custom URL" is strictly case sensitive. So "photo-Galleries" does redirect to "Photo-Galleries" -- even though "photo-galleries" does not. While I'd prefer to see case sensitivity removed altogether, at least I understand how it works.
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  • agalliaagallia Registered Users Posts: 541 Major grins
    edited October 12, 2015
    leftquark wrote: »
    There may be more, but here's a pretty good list of folder or gallery names that will not redirect properly if a user enters a lowercase first letter:

    date
    keyword
    password
    popular
    search
    browse
    customize
    organize
    client
    sales
    homepage
    settings
    login
    logout
    help
    prints
    about
    dashboard

    Thanks for info. Is this list in the Help somewhere?
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