More unannounced changes?

W.W. Webster

It appears SmugMug has rolled out some changes in the past 24 hours that change the way HTML in images titles and captions is handled. Can Aaron please talk to the engineers to confirm exactly what and why, and advise?

It is very difficult to maintain the look and feel of customised sites when this stuff happens. If ever any changes have to be made that will effect existing sites, the courtesy of some advanced notice would be welcome. I didn't see any reference to this in the Product News forum, but if I have somehow missed it, my apologies in advance.

ChancyRat

Could you explain specifics, give us URLs, or show image examples? I'm not seeing anything different on my site.

W.W. Webster

Thumbnail titles and captions for my blog image thumbnails are suddenly left justified, not centred. Link in the footer below.

leftquark

My apologies! Several months ago we started work to add a "Info Text Alignment" option to your content. This would allow you to choose to "Left", "Center", or "Right" justify your titles and captions/descriptions without having to use CSS. I thought we had pushed this live a while ago but it seems we got derailed while we worked on the Share Panel. This did go live on Friday. I'll make a more formal announcement tomorrow. The unfortunate consequence is that it overrides old CSS.

If you go into the Customizer you can now set the "Info Text Alignment." For this case, on your blog, you'd enter Customizer on the gallery, click on the "Galleries" content, and then select "Collage Portrait" and set "Info Text Alignment" to "Center."

It does look like there's something odd going on with Collage Portrait style galleries, in the way the text wraps around the download/buy buttons. We'll investigate that first thing on Monday.

(P.S: We're hearing the 'please notify us when you make changes' loud and clear and have some ideas / things we're working on to better inform you of when updates go live).

leftquark

We've gone ahead and pushed an update to the way the text wraps around the buttons on the Collage styles. On some fonts, however, some additional CSS is required, and can be added via Custom CSS.

W.W. Webster, I've gone ahead and added another CSS content block on your site with the folliowing CSS. I've also set your "Info Text Alignment" to center so you can have it centered again. Please let me know if you'd like me to undo the changes.

Here's the code, for others:

/* BEGIN Remove excess spacing from download/buy buttons to prevent 
   premature wrapping in captions */
.sm-gallery-columnorganic .sm-tiles-info-after .sm-gallery-image-tools {
    padding-bottom: 0 !important;
}
.sm-tile-info>.sm-gallery-image-tools>.sm-button-nochrome {
    margin: 0 !important;
}
/* END */

W.W. Webster

leftquark wrote: »

W.W. Webster, I've gone ahead and added another CSS content block on your site with the following (sic) CSS. I've also set your "Info Text Alignment" to center so you can have it centered again.

Thanks Aaron.

So what you are saying is the collage formats will now ignore user html in captions and there is no way around this? If so, it's back to the drawing board to work out how I can make my nearly-3,000 captions in this gallery look half tidy.

Thank God SmugMug is still (at least for now) respecting caption HTML in the Lightbox as I generally direct visitors to images there, otherwise I don't know what I would do - but is that on the skids as well?

And can you kindly step me a little more slowly to precisely where I can access the "Info Text Alignment" box? I expected to find it at Customise -> Gallery Settings -> Appearance but it's a no-show there, and I don't know where else I would expect it to be.

Edit: Found the "Info Text Alignment" box!

leftquark

W.W. Webster wrote: »

So what you are saying is the collage formats will now ignore user html in captions and there is no way around this?

I was a little surprised when you mentioned this and I thought "there's no way that can be". Then I tried some HTML in my captions and sure enough, Collage ignored it. It wasn't a decision that I consciously passed along to the team, so let me get back to you. If we're allowing it in other places, I think it should be allowed here as well. Stay tuned.

W.W. Webster wrote: »

Thank God SmugMug is still (at least for now) respecting caption HTML in the Lightbox as I generally direct visitors to images there, otherwise I don't know what I would do - but is that on the skids as well?

I have HTML in my own captions (on thousands of photos) ... I'd fight to the death to keep HTML in captions. You've got a strong supporter on your side: I hope we never remove that

Allen

I'm glad I don't use the collage styles, the captions look like #&%^#$ with that ugly download and cart.
I'd definitely remove those and rely on the lightbox ones.

W.W. Webster

leftquark wrote: »

I was a little surprised when you mentioned this and I thought "there's no way that can be". Then I tried some HTML in my captions and sure enough, Collage ignored it. It wasn't a decision that I consciously passed along to the team, so let me get back to you. If we're allowing it in other places, I think it should be allowed here as well. Stay tuned.

leftquark wrote: »

I have HTML in my own captions (on thousands of photos) ... I'd fight to the death to keep HTML in captions. You've got a strong supporter on your side: I hope we never remove that

W.W. Webster

leftquark wrote: »

Stay tuned ... I have HTML in my own captions (on thousands of photos) ... I'd fight to the death to keep HTML in captions. You've got a strong supporter on your side: I hope we never remove that

Is there anything to report on how the battle is going?