Sharpen image settings?

M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
edited January 17, 2016 in SmugMug Support
OK, I can't find where you set or change the sharpen settings. Is it at an image level or gallery level? Exactly where do I edit this? (wanting to increase the sharpening and see if that helps with the tack sharp full-size images on my computer becoming fuzzy when placed in forums and viewed)

TIA!

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  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    There are no sharpening settings once the photo has been uploaded. Have you tried viewing the images in Chrome and Safari to confirm that they're blurry? If you open just the photo by itself (not in a forum), does it still appear blurry?
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    Did there used to be a sharpen option?

    My images are tack sharp when viewed native on my computer. I'll go take a peek using a different browser or two and report back. Current is Firefox 43.01.
  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    Looks like changing browsers didn't make the image any sharper.

    Here's an example:
    Tack sharp on my computer, tack sharp from the SM side (look at the lower left copyright or the detail in the suit, shirt or bow tie) This is from the SM site using Safari:
    http://www.scottstrancephotography.com/Personal/Photography/20151217DanielCraven/n-hHRHq9/i-KrhF7zF/A

    And here's the same image simply linked in XL size to display in dGrin, also from Safari
    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=256421

    I was thinking there was a sharpen option of .2 default and I could try .4 or .6, but it appears that's not possible.....
  • photoclickphotoclick Registered Users Posts: 278 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    There was a sharpening setting in the Gallery Settings. However, this setting had nothing to do with the displaying images on the screen. It was meant to be for the printing lab if I remember correctly.

    As for your images -both examples I see are sharp:)
  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,784 Many Grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    Does this look blurry to you, when viewed without zooming in or anything? https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jVRTQxp/0/XL/i-jVRTQxp-XL.jpg
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  • Djm3006Djm3006 Registered Users Posts: 226 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    leftquark wrote: »
    Does this look blurry to you, when viewed without zooming in or anything? https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jVRTQxp/0/XL/i-jVRTQxp-XL.jpg

    I'am on my iPad and it looks good
  • pilotdavepilotdave Registered Users Posts: 785 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2015
    M38A1 wrote: »
    Did there used to be a sharpen option?

    My images are tack sharp when viewed native on my computer. I'll go take a peek using a different browser or two and report back. Current is Firefox 43.01.

    Sharpening settings were removed quietly a few months ago. They affected the display copies, not the originals used for printing.

    Dave
  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2015
    leftquark wrote: »
    Does this look blurry to you, when viewed without zooming in or anything? https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jVRTQxp/0/XL/i-jVRTQxp-XL.jpg

    It's sharp, but not as sharp as the original on my MBP or what I see directly uploaded on my smuggie account... It's subtle, but not as good.
  • WinsomeWorksWinsomeWorks Registered Users Posts: 1,935 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2015
    Just to stave off any future confusion in this thread, it was the exact opposite of this, as noted by others. The (now retired) sharpen setting was only for display copies (appearance in gallery), and did nothing to originals and did not change what went to the printing lab.
    photoclick wrote: »
    There was a sharpening setting in the Gallery Settings. However, this setting had nothing to do with the displaying images on the screen. It was meant to be for the printing lab if I remember correctly.

    As for your images -both examples I see are sharp:)
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  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited December 22, 2015
    Scott,
    Sounds like you might be on a retina MBP. As far as I know, retina MBP's upsize smaller photos to display them at a similar size than on non-retina screens. To reduce the amount of upsizing your computer does, you could consider increasing the "maximum display size" in the gallery settings > photo protection section of your gallery. Best results you should get setting it to "original". Of course,that would also give visitors access to your full size originals.

    If you're not on a retina device, check your browser's zoom setting to ensure that zoom is set to 100%.
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited December 22, 2015
    Yes! MBP retina display!!! I'll give that a try next. I'm not crazy - there IS a difference although subtle yet I can see it.
  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited December 23, 2015
    Scott,
    Yes, with retina MacBook's, the more you limit the "maximum display size", the more the computer would likely have to upsize photos, and thus would make the difference more apparent.
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  • M38A1M38A1 Registered Users Posts: 1,317 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2016
    Scott,
    Yes, with retina MacBook's, the more you limit the "maximum display size", the more the computer would likely have to upsize photos, and thus would make the difference more apparent.

    So I'm still really frustrated with this....
    My shots are tack sharp from the camera
    My shots are tack sharp in Lightroom
    My shots are tack sharp when exported as a full size .jpg and viewed on my MBP
    My shots are tack sharp when viewed on SmugMug
    My shots are Original in size on SM and the max display is Original
    My shots are NOT tack sharp when dropped into a forum for display

    Example: http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107233
    Look at the displayed image from the above link in a common forum software package, then click ON the image displayed and you will see the image on the SmugMug side. You'll note a difference in that the forum display is soft and the SM image is tack sharp. (I had a friend post the image to HIS site to test this and it looks the same on MY site done the SAME way) Compare the lace differences in the head/hat and dress area. Compare the hair. Compare the pattern in the dress.

    Am I crazy? Can you see the differences? What am I missing?

    My MBP, I'm using Firefox 43.04 and my zoom is 100%. I get the same viewing issue using Safari 8.0.7.

    Anyone?


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