Survey: Default Option for Visibility Settings

leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,781 Many Grins
edited August 19, 2016 in SmugMug Product News
I have a question that I could use some feedback from y'all:

Background: Each folder, page, or gallery has "Visibility" settings of either "Public", "Unlisted" or "Private". If it is Public, it will be displayed when visiting its parent. If Unlisted, it'll be hidden, and the only way to access it is with a direct link from the account owner.

A "parent" is considered to be the folder that the current item lives in.
A "child" is the item that is contained within the parent.
For example: If you have a "Folder2" inside "Folder1" (/Folder1/Folder2) then the child is "Folder2" and the parent is "Folder1",

Question: When you create a new folder, page, or gallery, do you want the Visibility settings of the new item to default to "Public", "Unlisted" or whatever its parent is?

Example 1: if "Folder1" was Unlisted, and you went to create Folder2, do you want Folder2 to preselect its Visibility to "Public" or "Unlisted" (its parent)?
Example 2: if "Folder3" was Public, and you went to create Folder4, do you want Folder4 to preselect its Visibility to "Public" (its parent) or "Unlisted"?

(For those that are tech savvy, ignore our option for "Inherit Unlisted" for the time being).

When creating a new item in a Folder, what should its default Visibility be? 21 votes

Public
0% 0 votes
Unlisted
14% 3 votes
Whatever its parent is
85% 18 votes
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Comments

  • AllenAllen "tweak 'til it squeaks" St. Louis, MoRegistered Users Posts: 9,976 Major grins
    edited August 18, 2016
    Must be late here, let me read all that again for the fourth time. Still lost me.

    When I create something I assume everything is inherited unless I specifically set it different.

    Problem? Unlisted parent. Create 100's of galleries/folders in it. Later change parent to Public.
    Do those 100's of children each have to be changed also? Is this the thing you are trying to figure out?
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  • RichardRichard Mildly bemused Madrid, SpainAdministrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,691 moderator
    edited August 18, 2016
    ^Good question, Allen. ear.gif
  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,781 Many Grins
    edited August 18, 2016
    Allen wrote: »
    When I create something I assume everything is inherited unless I specifically set it different.

    I think that answers the question, unless you're only answering it based on the fact that there's a setting called "inherited unlisted." Trying to figure out ways to simplify things and inheritance has always been confusing.
    Allen wrote: »
    Problem? Unlisted parent. Create 100's of galleries/folders in it. Later change parent to Public.
    Do those 100's of children each have to be changed also? Is this the thing you are trying to figure out?
    I'm more asking when you create the child, what the settings should be initially set to (but still changeable). Not trying to think about what happens when you change a setting after it's been saved.
    dGrin Afficionado
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  • photoclickphotoclick Major grins Registered Users Posts: 278 Major grins
    edited August 18, 2016
    Aaron, to me the answer is simple: children must inherit parent's visibility level. But I must confirm something. When you said "... should be initially set to (but still changeable).", what did you mean changeable? If a parent is private, I hope you are not planning on allowing a child be set to public???
  • Lille UlvenLille Ulven Lille Ulven ScandinaviaRegistered Users Posts: 566 Major grins
    edited August 18, 2016
    I agree with photoclick on the inheritance.

    But I am also ending up with a bunch of questions...
    1. Private Parent with a Public Child-gallery -> How are visitors to find this gallery from any gallery overview, since they cannot access the folder it exists in?
    2. Private Parent with a Private Child-gallery. Parent changes to Public -> Don't tell me you are planning to force the Child to change too, there might be a reason why it has not changed.
    3. Public Parent with a Public Child-gallery. Parent changes to Private -> If the child does not inherit the changes on the parent, then will it ever be found by visitors considering it is in a "hidden" folder? (I mean it is like you are having a box that you don't know where it is, but you know an item is in that box...you can see, touch and take out the item of the box that you don't even know how to open????)

    As for inheritance...it is as it has been with the flowers: if two genetically yellow flowers are crossed to produce a new child it will be a yellow child, not a blue one and not a red one. (Or for weirder examples: if two celebrities get a child it will have to endure the public life with all its benefits and disadvantages. If two nobodies get a child, the child will be a nobody until it makes a way into the flashlight for itself (celebrity: public folder, nobody: private folder :D)
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  • leftquarkleftquark Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,781 Many Grins
    edited August 18, 2016
    Private parents will always have (only) private children.
    dGrin Afficionado
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  • Cygnus StudiosCygnus Studios Commercial Photographer San Francisco's North BayRegistered Users Posts: 2,294 Major grins
    edited August 19, 2016
    Personally I like to upload everything "unlisted", then make public once I've gotten things the way I want.
    Steve

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