Song Sparrow

Rohirrim

Caught a few of these guys the other day when I was chasing the Virginia Rails.


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Thank you for looking,

Critique, suggestions always welcome. We learn more from our mistakes than our successes.

ginger_55

Sweet Steve, sweet,

I love those little birds. Wish they didn't "flit". I do have some to work up, but somehow overlook them. Really cool shots, those and your Rail ones.

ginger

BigAl

Those are really neat Steve! Small birds are definitely more difficult than big ones...

How much cropping did you do?

Rohirrim

ginger_55 wrote:

Sweet Steve, sweet,

I love those little birds. Wish they didn't "flit". I do have some to work up, but somehow overlook them. Really cool shots, those and your Rail ones.

ginger

Thank you Ginger. I appreciate your taking the time to respond.

Rohirrim

BigAl wrote:

Those are really neat Steve! Small birds are definitely more difficult than big ones...

How much cropping did you do?

Thank you Al. The first 2 are cropped to about 60% of the orginal image, the last one to about 50%.

Harryb

Good shots Mike of a difficult subject.

The first lloks a bit soft, probably due to the cropping. On the second I might have use shadow/highlights a tad to get some shadow detail in.

Rohirrim

Harryb wrote:

Good shots Mike of a difficult subject.

The first lloks a bit soft, probably due to the cropping. On the second I might have use shadow/highlights a tad to get some shadow detail in.

Thanks Howard () :lol4

I couldn't decide if the eye was soft in the first because of the crop or because he moved his head a tad. At 100% the feathers on the shoulder look very sharp. Maybe I needed more DOF

I thought about lightening up the shadows, but I though it looked better with the higher contrast . I've also been using the Fill Light feature in Raw Shooter Premium for lightening shadows, it's a lot faster than PS's Shadow/Highlight and seems to work just as well. I haven't done any pixel to pixel comparisons though.

Thanks,

jwear

Rohirrim wrote:

Thanks Howard () :lol4

I couldn't decide if the eye was soft in the first because of the crop or because he moved his head a tad. At 100% the feathers on the shoulder look very sharp. Maybe I needed more DOF

I thought about lightening up the shadows, but I though it looked better with the higher contrast . I've also been using the Fill Light feature in Raw Shooter Premium for lightening shadows, it's a lot faster than PS's Shadow/Highlight and seems to work just as well. I haven't done any pixel to pixel comparisons though.

Thanks,

well steve now you know and have joined the jeff -ben ben -jeff club 4 of us mike steve ben jeff hoo is hoo that new camera stuff has Harry going nice shots mike /steve ok old man lets see this bring out the shawdo stuff i have tried and :puke1 just can not get it right :cry

Rohirrim

jwear wrote:

well steve now you know and have joined the jeff -ben ben -jeff club 4 of us mike steve ben jeff hoo is hoo that new camera stuff has Harry going nice shots mike /steve ok old man lets see this bring out the shawdo stuff i have tried and :puke1 just can not get it right :cry

Well heres a very crude comparison of CS Shadow/Highlight and RSP Fill light.

Same shot above using CS Shadow/Highlight


and now with RSP Fill light adjustment



Opinions? Thoughts??

Takes about 5 seconds to use Fill light on RSP. Shadow/Highlight takes quite a bit longer, runs slower (at least on my machine), more settings to fiddle with. May possibly give better results if you're willing to take the time to get there.

dallas

cs2
Your little birds are alway so pretty, and convey such a sense of beauty that I find it hard to fault your work. But one comment if you don't mind. The little guy seems to have been shot through the heart with a twig. I guess you missed the twig for the forest. I think the CS2 is slightly better, if one were looking for perfection, however the other is very,very close. It depend on what use the picture serves whether or not to save the steps. My opinion only, of course Art is in the eyes of the beholder.

Rohirrim

dallas wrote:

Your little birds are alway so pretty, and convey such a sense of beauty that I find it hard to fault your work. But one comment if you don't mind. The little guy seems to have been shot through the heart with a twig. I guess you missed the twig for the forest. I think the CS2 is slightly better, if one were looking for perfection, however the other is very,very close. It depend on what use the picture serves whether or not to save the steps. My opinion only, of course Art is in the eyes of the beholder.

Thank you Dallas for your comments. Yep I agree that dang twig is distracting

vandana

Nice little birds! the twig I agree makes me wince a little ! Deosn't look he was getting hurt.. Shadow/highlight mod version definitely better than before - I can't personally see much difference between that the fill light , maybe a tad better tho I can't pinpoint where!