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Settings for photographing eagles?

DaniDani Registered Users Posts: 807 Major grins
edited January 21, 2006 in Wildlife
I'll have the 300D and the 70-200.... short I know.. but its all I got lol.

Supposed to be partly cloudy (or mostly sunny :dunno )
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    Dani wrote:
    I'll have the 300D and the 70-200.... short I know.. but its all I got lol.

    Supposed to be partly cloudy (or mostly sunny ne_nau.gif )


    :nono Dani you know better than to ask that. "Settings" vary from minute to minute, photographer to photographer, gear used, and place to place.

    Guidelines? Sure - we have plenty: You need as fast a shutter speed as possible - to avoid camera shake, and to stop action (unless you are shooting Harry's stuffed eagle on that tree in the Viera wetlands rolleyes1.gif )

    So, think FAST shutter speed first. Like 1/500th, better at 1/1000th. You'll need to crank your ISO up, but DON'T WORRY about that, because you're shooting with a Canon deal.gif

    Now, the final part of the equation is that the smaller the aperture, the greater your DOF. Even at f/4, you can have part of the bird NOT in focus. So you'll likely want to be at f/5.6, maybe f/8 IMO - also 5.6 and 8 are nearer to the sweetspot of your glass.

    Finally - probably wise to shoot in RAW and set your EC to -1/3 - avoiding chance of the blowout on the Eagle's head.

    Does this help?
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    John MuellerJohn Mueller Registered Users Posts: 2,555 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    What Andy said and use AV mode.
    That was funny about Harry's stuffed Eagle.rolleyes1.gif
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    DaniDani Registered Users Posts: 807 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    that sounds about what I was thinking.

    and I ALWAYS shoot raw thumb.gif
    Andy wrote:
    :nono Dani you know better than to ask that. "Settings" vary from minute to minute, photographer to photographer, gear used, and place to place.

    Guidelines? Sure - we have plenty: You need as fast a shutter speed as possible - to avoid camera shake, and to stop action (unless you are shooting Harry's stuffed eagle on that tree in the Viera wetlands rolleyes1.gif )

    So, think FAST shutter speed first. Like 1/500th, better at 1/1000th. You'll need to crank your ISO up, but DON'T WORRY about that, because you're shooting with a Canon deal.gif

    Now, the final part of the equation is that the smaller the aperture, the greater your DOF. Even at f/4, you can have part of the bird NOT in focus. So you'll likely want to be at f/5.6, maybe f/8 IMO - also 5.6 and 8 are nearer to the sweetspot of your glass.

    Finally - probably wise to shoot in RAW and set your EC to -1/3 - avoiding chance of the blowout on the Eagle's head.

    Does this help?
    Dani

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    HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    Hey Dani,

    I saw Andy's advice and its ok for someone who last live eagle was seen in a cage in the Bronx.

    Having seen a few in an unfettered state I will throw in a few points to consider. The challenge of getting a decent eagle shot is the proper exposure. You are dealing with a white head and a dark body. If you catch an eagle roosting in a tree I try to expose off the head. If its roosting you should have time for a trial shot. Before you move in to capture him take a quick shot and check your highlights. You want to have a bit of blown highlight around the edges of the head but not too much. The eagle's body will be a bit underexposed but this can be brought out in post processing. If you blow out too much of the head you will have a nice eagle body but a head with no detail. I shoot in aperture priority and usually do an ev adjustment or at -0.3.

    If the eagle is in the air the head is not as prominent and you want to expose more for the darker body. Keep your shutter speed to about 1/1000 second (faster is better). For flight shots I will usually do an ev adjustment of +0.3 or +0.7

    Please note that the ev adjustments will vary according to the light you are shooting in. A big factor will be if the eagle is backlit or not.

    Good luck.
    Harry
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    and usually do an ev adjustment or at -0.3.
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    Keep your shutter speed to about 1/1000 second (faster is better).

    Haven't we heard this already in this thread headscratch.gif
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    HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Haven't we heard this already in this thread headscratch.gif

    Just re-enforcing the excellent point you made. bowdown.gif
    Harry
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    luckydogluckydog Registered Users Posts: 396 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    So only crank up the ISO for flight shots or bump it up a little anyway?? Not that we have any Bald Eagles down here....not even a stuffed one in a tree.
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    luckydog wrote:
    So only crank up the ISO for flight shots or bump it up a little anyway?? Not that we have any Bald Eagles down here....not even a stuffed one in a tree.
    Plenty of wedgies about mate. You should have them about your way.
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