Retracing my Steps (Breadcrumbs and Menus)

sallyb

Hi all, a little help please. I have a very simple structure - home page to events page to individual event page and on that final page I have a gallery. Now, I want my users to be able to "back out" from where they were so, for example, into Events, into "TROG" then think 'nope, I need to go back to events'. This doesn't seem too daunting but I have spent maybe 5 days failing to achieve it! Breadcrumbs seemed the way to go (as I define them) but they always take me back to the folder not to the page and the formatting changes so that's not going to work. I tried, and am prepared to continue with, creating menus on each page but that only works down as far as the gallery at which point it disappears. BTW, I can't do the menu globally at the site level as I have other categories besides Events.

I'm pretty sure that I could use CSS to do this but it seems like a fairly fundamental issue so I am really hoping that I have missed something.

Assistance will be rewarded with virtual coffee and doughnut.

Allen

I believe breadcumbs only follow the folder/gallery tree that shows in Organizer.

sallyb

Hi @Allen . Unfortunately I am pretty sure that you are right but I don't get it My user(s) don't go from folder to folder, they go from page to page (a far as they know) so why would they not back-out the same way? I really can't think of a scenario where the way breadcrumbs work ATM would be helpful. Ah well, let's see if anyone comes up with an alternative strategy.

Cheers

Hikin' Mike

As @Allen mentioned, the breadcrumbs follow the folders/galleries/pages listed in the Organizer....as it should. If you want something different you will need to create a breadcrumb(s) using HTML/CSS.

@sallyb said:
I really can't think of a scenario where the way breadcrumbs work ATM would be helpful.

ATM?

sallyb

ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

Allen

From an endpoint, like a page, links to other places will work but to return to the originating page you would need to manually create the return link.

sallyb

Seems like a very fundamental requirement to me but, even given this, you can't do it from a displayed gallery

Hikin' Mike

@sallyb said:
ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

FWIW, I used to have custom breadcrumbs using HTML/CSS blocks, but changed my site and used SmugMug's breadcrumbs. I still use them on my family site.

sallyb

@Hikin' Mike said:

@sallyb said:
ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

FWIW, I used to have custom breadcrumbs using HTML/CSS blocks, but changed my site and used SmugMug's breadcrumbs. I still use them on my family site.

@Hikin' Mike said:

@sallyb said:
ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

FWIW, I used to have custom breadcrumbs using HTML/CSS blocks, but changed my site and used SmugMug's breadcrumbs. I still use them on my family site.

So, just using SMs Breadcrumbs, you can go Page A, Page B, Page C, Gallery, Page B right? That's all I am trying to do so I still hope I have missed something

sallyb

@sallyb said:

@Hikin' Mike said:

@sallyb said:
ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

FWIW, I used to have custom breadcrumbs using HTML/CSS blocks, but changed my site and used SmugMug's breadcrumbs. I still use them on my family site.

@Hikin' Mike said:

@sallyb said:
ATM = At the Moment I don't think we will agree on how Breadcrumbs should work

FWIW, I used to have custom breadcrumbs using HTML/CSS blocks, but changed my site and used SmugMug's breadcrumbs. I still use them on my family site.

So, just using SMs Breadcrumbs, you can go Page A, Page B, Page C, Gallery, Page B right? That's all I am trying to do so I still hope I have missed something

Additional - just took a look at your site to see how breadcrumbs were working and you have some great images there!

Hikin' Mike

@sallyb said:
So, just using SMs Breadcrumbs, you can go Page A, Page B, Page C, Gallery, Page B right? That's all I am trying to do so I still hope I have missed something

I don't understand.

@sallyb said:
Additional - just took a look at your site to see how breadcrumbs were working and you have some great images there!

Keep in mind that my website is WordPress. The only part of SmugMug is my galleries.

Thank you!

Hikin' Mike

As an example. If you have a FOLDER called "Events". Inside you have other folders called '2016', '2017 and', '2018'. Inside each of those folders you list all galleries from each year. Simplified:

Folder 2016
----- Birthday
----- Wedding
------ Misc

So if you click on 'Misc' your breadcrumb will list 'Home Icon > 2016'.

sallyb

Agreed, but I don't want to list galleries, I want to list pages and I am beginning to think that is the issue

Hikin' Mike

@sallyb said:
Agreed, but I don't want to list galleries, I want to list pages and I am beginning to think that is the issue

Then I don't understand.

denisegoldberg

@sallyb said:
Agreed, but I don't want to list galleries, I want to list pages and I am beginning to think that is the issue

If that's the case you will need to construct your own breadcrumb using HTML content blocks.

As noted above, the existing smug breadcrumbs reflect the hierarchy from folder(s) to galleries. It is not possible to nest a gallery within a page.

sallyb

Thanks everyone. I guess SM is not the way to go for me