New changes (problem,question and thanks)

Sigurd

As one of the people who was not very happy when the lightbox-feature was implemented, I have to say I am very happy about the latest changes!

Thanks so much for doing this and doing it so quickly!

I do have a problem though - while my galleries work fine with Opera, I just had a call from a friend who complained about not being able to view my originals. I checked it out and sure enough, originals will not show up when using IE. I've tried this on two different machines, one running IE 6.0.28 and one IE 6.0.29.

The page will look as normal, but there's no picture where it should be.


Also, I have one question which, if solvable, would turn my galleries from 'very good' to 'perfect' (and might also solve the problem up above as it'd mean skipping the page where no picture shows):

I have my galleries set to 'traditional' or 'all thumbs' (not really sure what the difference is between these...) and when clicking on a gallery, I get the page of thumbnails. Then I click one of the thumbnails and I get the page showing the picture with the 'sand'-theme-kinda-page I've selected. Click the picture and it's shown full-size on black background with just the navigational-stuff and size-selection discreetly on top. This is perfect! Is there any way to skip the 'sand-theme-kinda-page' and go directly from the thumbs to the full-size black background (lightbox?) page?

bwg

Sigurd wrote:

Also, I have one question which, if solvable, would turn my galleries from 'very good' to 'perfect' (and might also solve the problem up above as it'd mean skipping the page where no picture shows):

I have my galleries set to 'traditional' or 'all thumbs' (not really sure what the difference is between these...) and when clicking on a gallery, I get the page of thumbnails. Then I click one of the thumbnails and I get the page showing the picture with the 'sand'-theme-kinda-page I've selected. Click the picture and it's shown full-size on black background with just the navigational-stuff and size-selection discreetly on top. This is perfect! Is there any way to skip the 'sand-theme-kinda-page' and go directly from the thumbs to the full-size black background (lightbox?) page?

lol, this was the way lightbox worked before last nights changes.

Sigurd

bigwebguy wrote:

lol, this was the way lightbox worked before last nights changes.

Lightbox didn't work before last nights changes.

bwg

Sigurd wrote:

Lightbox didn't work before last nights changes.

oookay.

Sigurd

bigwebguy wrote:

oookay.

I really don't see the point in this debate, but the way lightbox works now is really not comparable to how it 'worked' previously. Not even close.

If you think it's exactly the same, then we've either used it in very different ways or we've got very different perceptions of it. No problem either way.

bwg

Sigurd wrote:

I really don't see the point in this debate, but the way lightbox works now is really not comparable to how it 'worked' previously. Not even close.

If you think it's exactly the same, then we've either used it in very different ways or we've got very different perceptions of it. No problem either way.

i'm not debating anything with you.

just saying that before yesterdays changes, clicking the thumbnail in traditional or allthumbs brought up lightbox.

you define "worked" however you want. doesnt bother me either way.

Sigurd

bigwebguy wrote:

just saying that before yesterdays changes, clicking the thumbnail in traditional or allthumbs brought up lightbox.

Yes, but, amongst other things, it did so by putting the picture over a 'ghosted' version of the thumbnails page, so for portrait type shots or smaller images that didn't cover the pictures beneath, you'd get a rather distracting view of the picture, also you'd stare at gearwheels for ages (for one of my friends that was all he saw as the pictures didn't load at all), you didn't get an html-link for the original version if you wanted to send it to someone etc.

The fact that clicking thumbnails brought up the lightbox earlier didn't help much when the lightbox itself wasnt' useable to me. Now it is.

Andy

Sigurd wrote:

I have my galleries set to 'traditional' or 'all thumbs' (not really sure what the difference is between these...)

Tradidtional = 4x4, larger thumbnails (-Th) with captions on the page
All THumbs = 6xN, smaller thumbnails (-Ti) with NO captions on the page.

Sigurd wrote:

and when clicking on a gallery, I get the page of thumbnails. Then I click one of the thumbnails and I get the page showing the picture with the 'sand'-theme-kinda-page I've selected. Click the picture and it's shown full-size on black background with just the navigational-stuff and size-selection discreetly on top. This is perfect! Is there any way to skip the 'sand-theme-kinda-page' and go directly from the thumbs to the full-size black background (lightbox?) page?

Uh - to quote you above:

Sigurd wrote:

As one of the people who was not very happy when the lightbox-feature was implemented, I have to say I am very happy about the latest changes!

The way you describe it is the way it went before our most recent changes (i.e., directly to LB, if preferred size was O).

Now, you click through the sizes and you get LightBox.

bwg

Sigurd wrote:

The fact that clicking thumbnails brought up the lightbox earlier didn't help much when the lightbox itself wasnt' useable to me. Now it is.

your perception of usability doesnt really change the facts though.

I'm sorry that you didnt like the way lightbox used to work, but i'm really the wrong person to complain to because i have no vested interest in whether lightbox is loved or hated. if you want to go on about how much lightbox has scorned you, there's already a thread for that.

Sigurd

Andy wrote:

Uh - to quote you above:
The way you describe it is the way it went before our most recent changes (i.e., directly to LB, if preferred size was O).
Now, you click through the sizes and you get LightBox.

To quote myself above:

The problems I had with the lightbox wasn't the clicking sequence to bring it up, but the fact that the lightbox presented the pictures 'noisily' (by keeping the other thumbnails ghosted beneath), it was slow (not sure if it was actually slower or just seemed that way because the picture didn't show bit by bit but the new version feels much faster) and it didn't (to my knowledge) make it possible to link directly to an original version of the picture.

If the lightbox had worked then as it does now, I would probably not have complained about it at all.

The problem with the 'sand-theme-page' that shows the picture first now, is that if the picture is wider than the theme allows (but still smaller than the page) it's shown with scrollbars at the bottom instead of showing the whole picture.

What I'd like is to click the thumbnail and get a page that displays the full picture with no added extras apart from navigation-tools and size-selections.

That's how it worked for originals before the lightbox - now it'll bring the
picture up in a 'theme-page' and will present it 'within the theme' with scrollbars at the bottom even if the picture fits the screen. I've tried various themes and they all seem to use scrollbars if the picture is bigger than (I'm guessing) 800px wide.

Andy

Sigurd wrote:

To quote myself above:

The problems I had with the lightbox wasn't the clicking sequence to bring it up, but the fact that the lightbox presented the pictures 'noisily' (by keeping the other thumbnails ghosted beneath),

You can now customize the opacity:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=28079

Andy

Sigurd wrote:

What I'd like is to click the thumbnail and get a page that displays the full picture with no added extras apart from navigation-tools and size-selections.

Critique Style to the rescue!

Andy

Sigurd wrote:

The problem with the 'sand-theme-page' that shows the picture first now,

It's not 'sand-theme' only - all themes

Sigurd

Andy wrote:

You can now customize the opacity:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=28079

Ok - not an issue for me though - clicking the picture on one the theme-page will bring up the full-size original on a black background. This works just fine now. I'd just like to skip the theme-page in between.

Sigurd

Andy wrote:

Critique Style to the rescue!

What? No. Unless I'm missing something obvious here, that's pretty much the exact opposite of what I described.

bwg

Sigurd wrote:

The problem with the 'sand-theme-page' that shows the picture first now, is that if the picture is wider than the theme allows (but still smaller than the page) it's shown with scrollbars at the bottom instead of showing the whole picture.

What I'd like is to click the thumbnail and get a page that displays the full picture with no added extras apart from navigation-tools and size-selections.

That's how it worked for originals before the lightbox - now it'll bring the
picture up in a 'theme-page' and will present it 'within the theme' with scrollbars at the bottom even if the picture fits the screen. I've tried various themes and they all seem to use scrollbars if the picture is bigger than (I'm guessing) 800px wide.

fair enough.

the style you're refering to as "sand-theme-page" is called singleImage. using customization you could modify it to remove all the stuff you dont want and have it display original images without scrollbars.

you could even make it black.

Sigurd

bigwebguy wrote:

using customization you could modify it to remove all the stuff you dont want and have it display original images without scrollbars.

you could even make it black.

Thanks - if the singleImage (theme-page) can be customized like this, this sounds like a very good solution for me.

I'll have a look - any faqs, posts or tutorials that show how this can be done?

Andy

Sigurd wrote:

any faqs, posts or tutorials that show how this can be done?

First four sticky threads in our customization forum:

http://www.dgrin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31

Sigurd

Andy wrote:

First four sticky threads in our customization forum:

http://www.dgrin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31

Thanks - I'll have a look and see what I come up with