F828 and Infrared questions
Hey there! I'm new the board here and I'm feeling really at home by all of the threads I've read so far. Eveyone seems to provide honest and creative criticism on photographs and I have not yet seen a thread bashing another person who doesn't use a super expensive camera, pre-judging them and their abilities. From what I've seen so far, you all are alright 
I'll be posting some samples of my shots soon enough (I dont have that many great ones), but I'd like to ask few questions about the Sony F828 and IR shooting.
My favorite ones are the IR photographs Andy took with his Sony F828 camera. I didn't know my little F828 can pull out shots like that! I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on where to start. I'm thinking about buying the Hoya R72 filter which everyone seems to like after doing some research online in conjunction with a number of ND filters instead of going through the modification process like he did. I've received some emails about it working pretty well so I'll try it out. I've read several threads on dpreview and other websites and for the past 24 hours, I think I've covered every single post and website there are (if you need any links to these sites, i have them all bookmarked! just ask me!).
Which filters would you recommend? Should I invest in larger diameter filters and use a step up ring from the normal 58mm filter size on the F828 to a
larger one such as 67mm, in order to prevent vignetting if I ever wish to stack ND filters on top?
I also plan to buy a DSLR from Canon's line, what filter diameters do most of your lenses use for taking photographs of landscapes (wide-angles)? A buddy of mine told me 77mm is the diameter his telephoto lenses accepts while the lens that came from the factory for his 20D was 58mm, the same as the Sony F828. You see, I'm trying to kill several birds with one stone :wink!
I'm really leaning towards 67mm filters, with the use of a step up ring so that in the future, if I ever wanted to, maybe use those filters on the new Sony R1, since I'm becoming a really big fan of these Sony cameras. But what I'm really concerned with is the vignetting, will it vignette if I stack lets say 58mm R72 + ND8 + ND4 filters? I'm pretty sure it will since my UV filter + polarizing filter already causes a small amount of vignetting.
Any thoughts that may help point me in the right direction will really help. Thanks a lot!
I'll be posting some samples of my shots soon enough (I dont have that many great ones), but I'd like to ask few questions about the Sony F828 and IR shooting.
My favorite ones are the IR photographs Andy took with his Sony F828 camera. I didn't know my little F828 can pull out shots like that! I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on where to start. I'm thinking about buying the Hoya R72 filter which everyone seems to like after doing some research online in conjunction with a number of ND filters instead of going through the modification process like he did. I've received some emails about it working pretty well so I'll try it out. I've read several threads on dpreview and other websites and for the past 24 hours, I think I've covered every single post and website there are (if you need any links to these sites, i have them all bookmarked! just ask me!).
Which filters would you recommend? Should I invest in larger diameter filters and use a step up ring from the normal 58mm filter size on the F828 to a
larger one such as 67mm, in order to prevent vignetting if I ever wish to stack ND filters on top?
I also plan to buy a DSLR from Canon's line, what filter diameters do most of your lenses use for taking photographs of landscapes (wide-angles)? A buddy of mine told me 77mm is the diameter his telephoto lenses accepts while the lens that came from the factory for his 20D was 58mm, the same as the Sony F828. You see, I'm trying to kill several birds with one stone :wink!
I'm really leaning towards 67mm filters, with the use of a step up ring so that in the future, if I ever wanted to, maybe use those filters on the new Sony R1, since I'm becoming a really big fan of these Sony cameras. But what I'm really concerned with is the vignetting, will it vignette if I stack lets say 58mm R72 + ND8 + ND4 filters? I'm pretty sure it will since my UV filter + polarizing filter already causes a small amount of vignetting.
Any thoughts that may help point me in the right direction will really help. Thanks a lot!
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personally i'm starting to collect Cokin drop-in filters... i use the "P" set... very handy things and theres a thread going on about them
another question to answer, 77 and 58 seem to the the thread sizes of choice for canon lenses.almost all of the "L" lenses i know of take 77mm threads. but again, with the drop in filter system all you have to do is get another thread adapter which cost like 5 bucks.
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Then you know you're avoiding possible vignetting, and you can plan for bigger lens purchases!
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I have a Sony F828. I've used the 58mm R72 with ND8 on mine. While I'm not an expert and haven't shot very many IR photos with mine, the one I have posted does have some vignetting.
Since I'm in the same boat as you - I will soon be getting a Canon system, I wish I had bought the larger filters.
Here's my crappy F828 IR example and please don't laugh at my post processing skills. You can see the corners.
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also, ive been talking to frank lemire and everyone on the yahoo group for infrared photography (look up infrared photography on yahoo and you'll find them!) and everyone agrees on getting the step up rings. frank was saying how his 62mm ir filter plus a 58mm nd filter has small yet unnoticable vignetting. but it clears the stock lens hood, which is always a +. i was hoping i could fit a 67mm filter with a 58mm filter with the lens hood. im going to a photo shop in town tommorow to see if i can test fit a couple before i go out and buy anything. ive been on the tip of my toes this past week, been 1 click away from spending my money already, but i think its wiser to wait and make sure i'll be satisfied with my purchase. especially when i'm getting this much input from everyone, can't let that knowledge go to waste.
so far, my plan is a 58mm hoya r72 with a 62mm b+w #106 nd filter, similar to frank's set-up, filter diameter wise. the 58mm r72 will suffice me even till the point when i do choose to have my camera modified (in a distant future) so i can keep it and hopefully sell the larger diameter nd filters i buy and collect more IR filters. however, if any of you are selling filters, if you've upgraded or something, drop me a line, i might be willing to take them off your hands
anyway, ill keep in touch, as soon as i take a few ir photos of my own, ill post them up along with some of the photographs ive taken in the past. ive been having several midterms lately hah. having this on my mind is not helping with crunch time. :photo