You can probably find more at www.engadget.com or www.cnet.com but yes, The Core Duo is Intel's next gen processor. Even Mac heads have to like it since that is the processor that is going into the Macs now. The Core Duo is a dual processor and the Core Solo is a single processor version of the Duo, hence the name - and hence the Duo recommendation. It is substantially faster and easier on batteries (and cooler I think) than the Pentium IV or Pentium M processors. The other advantage is that with the new processor you get a new, faster BUS and faster RAM to boot.
Yes, IMHO, SATA would be worth the money. Where ever you can prevent bottlenecks, you can cause noticeable improvements in speed. Bottlenecks happen if you don't have enough RAM, if you don't have a fast enough BUS, if you have a slow harddrive, and if your graphics card can't handle what you're throwing at it (and photoshop doesn't throw much at the graphics card).
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ok waxy/mike...is that it ? Old mate at the shop said that until the new software was up to speed then the core duo wasnt a big deal. He had them but said for photo editing i shouldnt be too concerned.
The guy's nutty. The dual core will definitely be faster for photoshop. That said, you'll have a pretty nice system going on there, so it won't be a big deal. BUT... you will notice a difference for the Core Duo particularly with photoshop which is one of those programs that is optimized for multiple processors.
About the wireless lan. I'm sure it's 802.11g, but really, you won't notice a difference unless you're sharing files from computers on your home network. Your broadband connection is what, 5mbps tops? 802.11b (the slower version) goes at 11 mbps so you've got a lot of room there.
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The guy's nutty. The dual core will definitely be faster for photoshop.
Agreed. The guy does have a point that badly written software developed by chimps who can't do multi-threaded programming won't be much better, and the code will speed up as the optimisation people get more used to the new CPU, but of all 'normal' applications that would run faster Photoshop would be a prime example.
Note however, that you will not get 2x speed up from having a dual core processor, not even close....
you will notice a difference for the Core Duo particularly with photoshop which is one of those programs that is optimized for multiple processors.
Or running multiple applications at the same time, as long as they don't chatter to memory too much.
About the wireless lan. I'm sure it's 802.11g, but really, you won't notice a difference unless you're sharing files from computers on your home network. Your broadband connection is what, 5mbps tops? 802.11b (the slower version) goes at 11 mbps so you've got a lot of room there.
I would incline towards 802.11g. An 11Mbps connection achieves more like 2Mbps in typical perfromance. OK, so if broadband is all you want wireless for you might be all right, but you'll really notice the difference if you talk between computers.
badly written software developed by chimps who can't do multi-threaded programming won't be much better
Yeah, 'badly written' software like just about every DirectX based game. (And one of my company's main products, I might add!) Very few games these days will take advantage of multiple processors (or cores). I would agree that for a gaming setup, an uber fast single core/processor IS still the way to go. However if you are less concerned w/ gaming, and more concerned w/ multi-threaded apps then a multiple core or multiple processor is just the ticket. As has been said, Photoshop is one such app.
This is part of why I don't think gaming and heavy photoshop lifting don't necessarily mix.
If you are concerned w/ photoshop performance, I would definitely shoot for a multiple core or multiple processor setup. Besides, multi-core/processor systems are the next big thing. In the past decade we've all been overly concerned w/ Mhz count. In the next decade we are going to be more concerned w/ processing core count.
Dell 9400
Intel core duo 72500 2GHz 2MB cache 667 MHz FBS
Xp (cause i like it..no networking so home is fine)
3 year warranty parts/labor & accidental
17" WUXGA 1920 x 1200
2 gig ram 667 MHz DDR2
256 MB Nvidia GeForce Go 7800
100 gig H/drive 7200 rpm
8x DVD burner
9 cell battery (extra $40 for a spare 9 cell)
blue tooth (what ever that is)
How'd i do this time ?
The guys in the shops about the place bagged Dell out real bad but most of the people i know in IT always say they can be good value as they tend to be stable & have good warrantys for dummys....is this true ?
You're going to shed a tear just starting up that system and seeing how fast it is. I think it's an excellent (albeit huge) choice.
Oh and bluetooth can be really cool. It is a means of getting a wireless connection to things. It's very short range and doesn't take much power so things like bluetooth mice, headsets, keyboards, PDAs, printers, etc all exist and can make it so you never have to plug anything in. Very, very handy.
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The guys in the shops about the place bagged Dell out real bad but most of the people i know in IT always say they can be good value as they tend to be stable & have good warrantys for dummys....is this true ?
Looks good to me! Monster of a "lap"top at 17".
Dells give very good value for money (at least in the US). Sometimes the physical hardware isn't quite as durable as an IBM/Lenovo, but their service is decent if you get the onsite warranty. You get problems/horror stories with any big manufacturer...
My office right now is almost entirely Dell... despite the fact that I've encouraged people to try IBM/Lenovos. People like their Dells, and order new ones to replace old ones.
So i made the mistake of walking into SonyCentral today You see...i have ..for some unknown reason...got a real bad thing-a-me-bob for Sony VAIO's.
I threw the spec for dell on the counter & told them i was an hour from ordering it & wanted to know what they would give me for my dosh. They cheated & told me a same spec machine as the Dell i was looking at will arrive next week only its 15.1" (really more sensible for the backpack) & aparently its about half the thickness of the dell.
The plot thickens...glad im not in a hurry so will see what next week brings when it arrives.
Hey David...i actually went & played with the new intel mac lappy for an hour or so..pity it does not have a higher res screen. Man they know what strings to pul with the toys...like that cool mouse etc. Their stuff is really cool design.
When you get more info on the new Vaio, let us know about it would you?
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http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/home.htm
You can probably find more at www.engadget.com or www.cnet.com but yes, The Core Duo is Intel's next gen processor. Even Mac heads have to like it since that is the processor that is going into the Macs now. The Core Duo is a dual processor and the Core Solo is a single processor version of the Duo, hence the name - and hence the Duo recommendation. It is substantially faster and easier on batteries (and cooler I think) than the Pentium IV or Pentium M processors. The other advantage is that with the new processor you get a new, faster BUS and faster RAM to boot.
Yes, IMHO, SATA would be worth the money. Where ever you can prevent bottlenecks, you can cause noticeable improvements in speed. Bottlenecks happen if you don't have enough RAM, if you don't have a fast enough BUS, if you have a slow harddrive, and if your graphics card can't handle what you're throwing at it (and photoshop doesn't throw much at the graphics card).
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put a 7200 rpm and you'll definitely be much happier.
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The guy's nutty. The dual core will definitely be faster for photoshop. That said, you'll have a pretty nice system going on there, so it won't be a big deal. BUT... you will notice a difference for the Core Duo particularly with photoshop which is one of those programs that is optimized for multiple processors.
About the wireless lan. I'm sure it's 802.11g, but really, you won't notice a difference unless you're sharing files from computers on your home network. Your broadband connection is what, 5mbps tops? 802.11b (the slower version) goes at 11 mbps so you've got a lot of room there.
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
Agreed. The guy does have a point that badly written software developed by chimps who can't do multi-threaded programming won't be much better, and the code will speed up as the optimisation people get more used to the new CPU, but of all 'normal' applications that would run faster Photoshop would be a prime example.
Note however, that you will not get 2x speed up from having a dual core processor, not even close....
Or running multiple applications at the same time, as long as they don't chatter to memory too much.
I would incline towards 802.11g. An 11Mbps connection achieves more like 2Mbps in typical perfromance. OK, so if broadband is all you want wireless for you might be all right, but you'll really notice the difference if you talk between computers.
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That's a very good question
I guess we do it out of hope....
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This is part of why I don't think gaming and heavy photoshop lifting don't necessarily mix.
If you are concerned w/ photoshop performance, I would definitely shoot for a multiple core or multiple processor setup. Besides, multi-core/processor systems are the next big thing. In the past decade we've all been overly concerned w/ Mhz count. In the next decade we are going to be more concerned w/ processing core count.
Oh and bluetooth can be really cool. It is a means of getting a wireless connection to things. It's very short range and doesn't take much power so things like bluetooth mice, headsets, keyboards, PDAs, printers, etc all exist and can make it so you never have to plug anything in. Very, very handy.
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
Dells give very good value for money (at least in the US). Sometimes the physical hardware isn't quite as durable as an IBM/Lenovo, but their service is decent if you get the onsite warranty. You get problems/horror stories with any big manufacturer...
My office right now is almost entirely Dell... despite the fact that I've encouraged people to try IBM/Lenovos. People like their Dells, and order new ones to replace old ones.
When you get more info on the new Vaio, let us know about it would you?
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au