color not the same....

wetsands

Ok,
so i uploaded my first gallery only to notice the colors are off!!!

The water color is supposed to be green, but instead its more of a muddy color!

The images look fine in bridge and cs2 the way they supposed too converted and save as srgb 8 bit...

thanks.
jd

Andy

wetsands wrote:

Ok,
so i uploaded my first gallery only to notice the colors are off!!!

The water color is supposed to be green, but instead its more of a muddy color!

The images look fine in bridge and cs2 the way they supposed too converted and save as srgb 8 bit...

thanks.
jd

JD, I need a gallery link, in order to see them and diagnose the problem. I'll look in the morning..

In the meantime, some reading for you:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/display-color
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/27/mac-browsers-can-you-believe-your-eyes/

http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/smugmug-alters-my-colors/

wetsands

Andy wrote:

JD, I need a gallery link, in order to see them and diagnose the problem. I'll look in the morning..

In the meantime, some reading for you:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/display-color
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/27/mac-browsers-can-you-believe-your-eyes/

http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/smugmug-alters-my-colors/

Hi Andy,
here's the link..
http://wetsands.smugmug.com/gallery/1249901/1

it looks like these guys are surfing in an ocean of mud rather than nice dark green seas...ugggg..
thanks,
jd

Baldy

Hi jd,

Thanks for uploading a gallery and giving SmugMug a try!

I looked at your photos and love them, but I'm biased because I love surfing shots. Unfortunately, I don't know what to say about the water looking brown... It looks that way to me in CS2 and in my browser, and they look exactly the same. In CS2, the eyedropper is reading the colors at around Red 116, Green 100, Blue 64, which is reddish brown.

Can you tell me what browser you're using and whether you're on a Mac or PC?

Thanks,
Chris

wetsands

Baldy wrote:

Hi jd,

Thanks for uploading a gallery and giving SmugMug a try!

I looked at your photos and love them, but I'm biased because I love surfing shots. Unfortunately, I don't know what to say about the water looking brown... It looks that way to me in CS2 and in my browser, and they look exactly the same. In CS2, the eyedropper is reading the colors at around Red 116, Green 100, Blue 64, which is reddish brown.

Can you tell me what browser you're using and whether you're on a Mac or PC?

Thanks,
Chris

Hi Chris,
I edited and was viewing it on a mac (safari), but looking at them now on my cheesy little pc lap top (explorer) the color is alittle more on the green side (rather than the muddier color i noticed on safari/mac)...
they look dark green in cs2 and the mac's monitor was calibrated w/ a gretag mcbeth i1 a few weeks ago (when ever i edit and post my images on different websites or message boards they usually match exactly what i have in cs2 and on the mac)..what do you think? the only thing i did different from what i usually do was sharpen in lab and convert to rgb...i don't thinkthat would mess anything up ..do you?

on a side bar...seeing how you looked at some of my shots..what do you think about the level of sharpening i applied?

I'm new to smugmug and wanted to be sure i didn't have to much sharpening which, when added to the smug mug output sharpen, would oversharpin the print...what do ya think :-) ?

thanks,
jd

javier.rinaldi

Wetsands,

what colorspace did you use for your editing? Is your monitor profiled? These can make huge differences in how you see things.

The sharpening applied by smugmug is only to the display image, the sharpening is not passed on to the print since the original remain, the original.

Andy

wetsands wrote:

Hi Chris,
I edited and was viewing it on a mac (safari), but looking at them now on my cheesy little pc lap top (explorer) the color is alittle more on the green side (rather than the muddier color i noticed on safari/mac)...
they look dark green in cs2 and the mac's monitor was calibrated w/ a gretag mcbeth i1 a few weeks ago (when ever i edit and post my images on different websites or message boards they usually match exactly what i have in cs2 and on the mac)..what do you think? the only thing i did different from what i usually do was sharpen in lab and convert to rgb...i don't thinkthat would mess anything up ..do you?

on a side bar...seeing how you looked at some of my shots..what do you think about the level of sharpening i applied?

I'm new to smugmug and wanted to be sure i didn't have to much sharpening which, when added to the smug mug output sharpen, would oversharpin the print...what do ya think :-) ?

thanks,
jd

JD - please read the link above, do NOT use safari to get an accurate view of your colors - get Firefox or Camino, as your second browser on your mac..

As Chris did, I viewed your shots critically in Photoshop, measured the colors, and I find the water to be brown in the wave foam, and green-brown towards the background. This shot in particular:

http://wetsands.smugmug.com/photos/58583011-L.jpg

You can greatly increase the color quality of these shots by adding a little "pop"

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1075277
http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1086744

All the best,

Andy

wetsands

Andy wrote:

JD - please read the link above, do NOT use safari to get an accurate view of your colors - get Firefox or Camino, as your second browser on your mac..

As Chris did, I viewed your shots critically in Photoshop, measured the colors, and I find the water to be brown in the wave foam, and green-brown towards the background. This shot in particular:

http://wetsands.smugmug.com/photos/58583011-L.jpg

You can greatly increase the color quality of these shots by adding a little "pop"

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1075277
http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1086744

All the best,

Andy

Hi Andy,

The colors do look much better (and more accurate in Firefox than the did in safari..Why is that???

Should I include a little note my web page warning people to stay clear of using safari when veiwing my images?

I'll look at those links about adding "pop" to them...

what did you think about the sharpening..all i applied was a very gentle smart sharp at amount=22 radius=2 w/ lens blur (in lab lightness channel)..will this work ok w/ smug mug printing..or is it still too aggressive...not aggressive enough..?

thanks!
jd

Andy

wetsands wrote:

Hi Andy,

The colors do look much better (and more accurate in Firefox than the did in safari..Why is that???

Should I include a little note my web page warning people to stay clear of using safari when veiwing my images?

I'll look at those links about adding "pop" to them...

what did you think about the sharpening..all i applied was a very gentle smart sharp at amount=22 radius=2 w/ lens blur (in lab lightness channel)..will this work ok w/ smug mug printing..or is it still too aggressive...not aggressive enough..?

thanks!
jd

A note won't hurt, but you, like the ROW, probably get about 5-10% Safari visitors.

I think the sharpening was fine - but the proof will be how YOU feel about it. I'll make up some prints from this gallery and we'll see:

http://wetsands.smugmug.com/gallery/1244932/1/58466538

dem

Andy wrote:

JD - please read the link above, do NOT use safari to get an accurate view of your colors - get Firefox or Camino, as your second browser on your mac..

I don't notice the Safari color profile bug any more on Mac OS X 10.4.

JD, what version are you running?

wetsands

dem wrote:

I don't notice the Safari color profile bug any more on Mac OS X 10.4.

JD, what version are you running?

10.4.5...

dem

Well, so much for that theory. :