OT: Are you Afraid of the Avian Flu

windozewindoze Registered Users Posts: 2,830 Major grins
edited March 18, 2006 in The Big Picture
maybe you have noticed ( and maybe to everyone's benefit ) i havent really posted many bird images lately...... truth is im scared of the avian flu.. :cry
since there are a lot of birders on dgrin i was curious if anybody else feels the way i do or have changed their ways about how they photograph birds.. :dunno

one of the reasons ( birds ) i was becoming more interested in photography is now one of the reasons not to photograph.... life can be funny that way....

troy

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  • MuskyDudeMuskyDude Registered Users Posts: 1,508 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    Troy,

    I think your reaction is quite normal. However, as of this point, the instances of transmission from bird to human is still quite rare and isolated to people who have regular contact (i.e. bird handlers, chicken farmers) with them. So, unless your handling the birds you are photographing, I would'nt worry about it.

    PS I work for the Public Health Agency of Canada, here's a link to some good information on H5N1.

    AJ

    windoze wrote:
    maybe you have noticed ( and maybe to everyone's benefit ) i havent really posted many bird images lately...... truth is im scared of the avian flu.. :cry
    since there are a lot of birders on dgrin i was curious if anybody else feels the way i do or have changed their ways about how they photograph birds.. ne_nau.gif

    one of the reasons ( birds ) i was becoming more interested in photography is now one of the reasons not to photograph.... life can be funny that way....

    troy
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    AJ: Your information is important. Thank you. thumb.gif
    We - my wife and myself - are going to Borneo next month and we feel this kind of information is important and usefull. Thought we have already read about the asian Influenza before.
    Troy: I think it is a little exageration not to photograph birds. They stay far from us ... and the main danger comes from their great concentration, which is not the case of the birds when in the nature.
    I read in the paper today:
    America - no case of flue whatsoever;
    Europe - 4 dead persons; 24 countries "infected"
    Shoot the birds ! (with the camera ):D
    Regards
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • GraphyFotozGraphyFotoz Registered Users Posts: 2,267 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    There are ZERO instances of it getting to humans and spreading person to person.
    They are worried that the strain could mutate and do this but if it hasn't happened yet chances are it won't.
    Countries that haves cases of PPL getting it were where they keep birds for pets!

    At this point it's more of a risk to drive your car to work than get the avian flu!
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    There are ZERO instances of it getting to humans and spreading person to person...
    At this point it's more of a risk to drive your car to work than get the avian flu!
    As far as I know, transmission to Humans and spreading person to person is only a question a time.umph.gif
    Driving is in fact more dangerous... than photographing birds 250 meters away.
    Regards:):
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • StormdancingStormdancing Registered Users Posts: 917 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    There are many other avian born diseases that are transmitted to humans. Chlamydiosis (Psittacosis or Parrot Fever) , Salmonellosis, Campylobacteriosis, New Castles Disease, Allergic Alveolitus, Mycobacteriosis (Avian Tuberculosis), Influenza, Giardia, and Cryptosporidiosis. Other diseases are transmitted by way of birds as an intermediary host. West Nile Virus, [FONT=Arial, Arial, Helvetica]St. Louis Encephalitis, Dengue Fever, Malaria And Yellow Fever are all spread by way of mosquitos biting an infected bird, then biting a human.

    At this point we really have more to fear from mosquitos than from birds. The cases of Avian Flu that are being reported are mostly in countries where hygiene is not up to our standards. In many of these countries people actually live side by side with their fowl. In the house on dirt floors, eating and drinking in those same areas.

    Just a few tidbits from the WHO web site.

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/avian_influenza/en/

    [/FONT]All evidence to date indicates that close contact with dead or sick birds is the principal source of human infection with the H5N1 virus. Especially risky behaviours identified include the slaughtering, defeathering, butchering and preparation for consumption of infected birds. In a few cases, exposure to chicken faeces when children played in an area frequented by free-ranging poultry is thought to have been the source of infection. Swimming in water bodies where the carcasses of dead infected birds have been discarded or which may have been contaminated by faeces from infected ducks or other birds might be another source of exposure.

    Investigations of all the most recently confirmed human cases, in China, Indonesia, and Turkey, have identified direct contact with infected birds as the most likely source of exposure.

    End

    The best line of defense for us right now is something your mother has told your for years and years.

    Wash your hands often and don't play in bird poop.
    Dana
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    no birds sang there except those that sang best.
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    Total load of media poppy-cock to sell advertising space because we like to be afraid !!!

    I was reading the other day that something like 35 000 americans die each year from the 'normal' flu...god sakes guys..how many die on the roads or from ciggarettes/booze but they are boring & we are not frightened of them anymore so we need a new monster under the bed. !! This is the garbage that IS killing us yet we want to be sold a toyota whilst watching telly in some terrified state wondering what the world will become over something that hasnt happened & most likely never will & if it does then it is not going to finish our population off.

    ITS A MEDIA BEAT UP FOR ADVERTISING $$$$$$$$$

    end rant
  • StormdancingStormdancing Registered Users Posts: 917 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    It not like this is something new.

    Another clip from WHO web site.

    "First identified in Italy in 1878, highly pathogenic avian influenza........."
    Dana
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    Use what talents you possess: the woods would be very silent if
    no birds sang there except those that sang best.
    ~Henry Van Dyke
  • ThusieThusie Registered Users Posts: 1,818 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2006
    At the NWRA conference this year there were a couple good presintations on the 'new' avain flue that has been around 10 years:): Now why? Because wildife rehabilitators are some of the folks most likey to have contact with infected wild birds. Same with West Nile. The one presenter started out her talk with a slide depicting Chicken Little. Yes there is some concern, is it the huge event the news is making it out to be? Probably not.
    Basically it amounts to this..Don't eat bird poop
    Always wear gloves when handling ANY orphaned or injured wildlife
    Wash your hands
    Don't smooch wild birds, and no, I'm not making light or fun of your concerns Troy. Trust me I'll be dealing with the public panic soon enough. WNV was crazy this ought to be real fun..

    The USGS has been testing wild birds in the US for the last 8 moths and only found the 'norma' avain influenza (s). Calif. has a top notch bunch of folks in the field that will be doing constant monitoring.

    Troy enjoy your wild birds and take lots of shots!
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