IPTC Keywords disappearing

controldcontrold Registered Users Posts: 146 Major grins
edited March 20, 2006 in SmugMug Support
I am hoping this is a quick "duh" on my part that someone can point out.

The keywords on my uploads are disappearing. They are added using Adobe Bridge to the RAW file prior to conversion to .DNG. They are then converted to JPG using the Save dialog in Camera Raw.

Both the .dng file and the .jpg file display the keywords in Bridge and in the File Info in CS2. The keywords do not show up in the uploaded file though.

I've read a bunch of threads going back sometime on here and have seen that in theory keywords added in Bridge/CS2 with semi-colons should import without issue.

I don't know of anyway to test the .jpg file locally for keyword information. Neither the ones I had created in an old workflow with IView (which mangled the EXIF data amongst other issues - hence the switch back to Adobe for the JPG creation) that had keywords in place when uploaded, nor the new ones show any keyword data in the Properties under Windows.

Anyone else have a similar experience and can point out a mistake I am making here? Much appreciated...

- Mike
http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/

Canon 30D | 10D
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    controld wrote:

    Anyone else have a similar experience and can point out a mistake I am making here? Much appreciated...

    - Mike

    I just validated again, they are working fine. Semicolons, or commas.
    http://andydemo.smugmug.com/gallery/1254182/1/60852720/Large

    Can I have a gallery link, please?
  • controldcontrold Registered Users Posts: 146 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    Andy,

    Thanks for the response... you can check out this as a sample:

    http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/gallery/1275694/1/59906549/Large


    the file in both the .dng and .jpg format shows the keywords in CS2, specifically:

    hockey; varsity; blues; university; sport; cis; dalhousie; 1 Star; davies

    - Mike
    http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/

    Canon 30D | 10D
    Canon 10-22 | 28-135 f3.5-5.6 | 70-200 f4L | 100-400 f4-5.6L
    Canon Speedlight 580EX
    Kenko Extension Tubes
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    I'd like to know *exactly* the process you are using to add your keywords - because I added a few more keywords in Bridge to your photo, then uploaded to my demo site and the keywords appear just fine:

    http://andydemo.smugmug.com/gallery/1254182/1/60859365/Large
  • controldcontrold Registered Users Posts: 146 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    - Ctrl-A to select all in Bridge
    - Apply template with basic info, including some global keywords
    - Go through and add rating info
    - Individually add keywords for photo specific info (like names)
    - Filter based on 1 Star +
    - Camera raw and crops
    - Save as .dng and then as .jpg for SM upload

    Did you see the existing keywords in there when you opened it, then added a couple more and suddenly they all appeared on upload?

    - Mike
    http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/

    Canon 30D | 10D
    Canon 10-22 | 28-135 f3.5-5.6 | 70-200 f4L | 100-400 f4-5.6L
    Canon Speedlight 580EX
    Kenko Extension Tubes
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    controld wrote:

    Did you see the existing keywords in there when you opened it, then added a couple more and suddenly they all appeared on upload?

    - Mike
    yep. I wonder if the .dng is messing things up?
  • controldcontrold Registered Users Posts: 146 Major grins
    edited March 20, 2006
    Hrm... I just opened one of the .jpg files in CS2 and added a keyword (multiword actually - "extra keyword").

    After uploading that pic displays the keywords - excluding the one I just added - but it's there in the box if I click to edit them.

    http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/gallery/1275694/1/60861956/Large

    That bit of oddness aside it seems maybe Bridge is doing something to the keywords on export from DNG to JPG that is causing this. They are obviously still there and it only takes a modification of the field in CS2 to bring them back to life... made odder by the fact that this is two Adobe products from the same family... I'll mess around some more tomorrow and see if I can narrow the scope any further.

    Thanks for your assistance!

    - Mike
    http://mikeapted.smugmug.com/

    Canon 30D | 10D
    Canon 10-22 | 28-135 f3.5-5.6 | 70-200 f4L | 100-400 f4-5.6L
    Canon Speedlight 580EX
    Kenko Extension Tubes
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